Re: [lamps] Benjamin Kaduk's Yes on draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5750-bis-06: (with COMMENT)

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Wed, 20 June 2018 19:42 UTC

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 14:42:31 -0500
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Benjamin Kaduk's Yes on draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5750-bis-06: (with COMMENT)
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Trimming the easily resolved bits...

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:34:46PM -0700, Jim Schaad wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:11 PM
> > To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> > Cc: draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5750-bis@ietf.org; Russ Housley
> > <housley@vigilsec.com>; lamps-chairs@ietf.org; housley@vigilsec.com;
> > spasm@ietf.org
> > Subject: Benjamin Kaduk's Yes on draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5750-bis-06: (with
> > COMMENT)
> > 
> > 
> > Section 4.3
> > 
> > Why are we going from SHOULD+ (in RFC 5750) to just SHOULD for RSASSA-
> > PSS with SHA-256?
> 
> Big long discussion on this, but mostly because EdDSA has overtaken RSASSA-PSS in the mind share of the world.

Maybe we could have a little text in Appendix A, then?

> 
> > 
> >    [...] Other extensions may be included, but those extensions
> >    SHOULD NOT be marked as critical.
> > 
> > Is this a candidate for a 2119 MAY?
> 
> No not really, marking things a critical is a hinderance to interoperability rather than promoting it.  The selection of SHOULD NOT rather than MAY indicates this by saying that if you want to do this you should probably reconsider that decision unless you have a really good case to do so.

Whoops, I was talking about "MAY be included", not the "SHOULD NOT be
marked as critical".  But I could go either way; it's kind of a statement
of fact.

-Benjamin