[lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed
Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Sun, 29 January 2023 23:43 UTC
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Subject: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed
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Dear all, I don't think linking certs or special provisions for hybrid encryption or authentication are a good idea. A hybrid encryption scheme should be an encryption scheme with a public and private key, just like any other key you can put in the PKIX. If for backwards compatibility you want to have multiple kinds of keys just like we do with RSA and ECDSA keys in TLS, just do that! Don't add complexities to try to link them or force people to find both keys at once for an operation. We know that the transition model with multiple unrelated certs works, and we have experience and fixed bugs that resulted. Let's use that instead of have new bugs to fix. The other thing is hybrid auth is worthless. Authentication breaks are not retroactive: a break of an algorithm at a time in the future doesn't threaten the security properties of authentication in the past. That's different from encryption, where you do potentially want to ensure a new post-quantum algorithm is no worse than a classical one, but the case for it is fairly weak. Sincerely, Watson Ladd
- [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Michael Markowitz
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Tadahiko Ito
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Seo Suchan
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hybrid pkix isn't need… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Tadahiko Ito
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Carl Wallace
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Hybrid pkix isn't need… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [lamps] Hybrid pkix isn't needed Tim Hollebeek