Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-related Internet-Drafts
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Hiya, On 07/06/2023 01:20, Michael Richardson wrote: > It seems to require a few influencial entities willing to get together for a > 3 to 5 year effort, and not lose direction. For PKI, it needs more than a "few" - it needs a few CAs, and a few end entities and a few relying parties and at least one of each needs to be "influential" - three-legged stools are a pain and PKI just is one;-) That's not a critique of the proposals (though I consider 'em not ready for adoption still), nor of their proponents, just a fact of life in this space I reckon. S.
- [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-relat… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Markowitz
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Carl Wallace
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Klaußner, Jan
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXT] Re: Call for adoption for the c… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXT] Re: Call for adoption for the c… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Watson Ladd
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Seo Suchan
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Falko Strenzke
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Bruckert, Leonie
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… ietf@gazdag.de
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Salz, Rich
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… antonio.vaira@siemens.com
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for the … Hubert Kario
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Russ Housley
- [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth-pq-… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption for draf… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Klaußner, Jan
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for the composite-r… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … John Gray
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Peter C
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Peter C
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… antonio.vaira@siemens.com
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption for draft-ounsworth… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption for … Mike Ounsworth