Re: [lamps] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-10.txt

Daniel Migault <> Wed, 20 June 2018 15:51 UTC

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Thanks for the clarification. I did not saw them in the diff of version 10 because they were on version 7.  Then this confuses me as well, and I do not know why I had the impression it was missing. This addresses my concern and I apology for raising it then.


From: Russ Housley <>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:41 AM
To: Daniel Migault <>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-10.txt


I am confused by your comment. Section 2.1 lists the mandatory-to-implement hash functions, Section 2.2 lists the mandatory-to-implement signature algorithms, Section 2.3 lists the mandatory-to-implement key establishment algorithms, and Section 2.7 lists the mandatory-to-implement encryption algorithms.


On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Daniel Migault <<>> wrote:


I am fine with the update and appreciated the response to my comments. Though this might be done elsewhere, I believe it would be good to have a companion document with cryptographic recommendation and mandatory to implement algorithms.

From: Eric Rescorla <<>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 12:11 AM
To: Jim Schaad <<>>
Cc: SPASM <<>>; Daniel Migault <<>>
Subject: Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-10.txt

Thanks. I will take a look this week.

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Jim Schaad <<>> wrote:

This should address the last comment that you pointed out from Daniel.  I used his suggested language so I doubt he is going to object.

I believe that you should be able to advance to ballot now


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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 6:28 PM
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Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-10.txt

A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis-10.txt
has been successfully submitted by Jim Schaad and posted to the IETF repository.

Name:           draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5751-bis
Revision:       10
Title:          Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) Version 4.0 Message Specification
Document date:  2018-06-19
Group:          lamps
Pages:          58

   This document defines Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
   (S/MIME) version 4.0.  S/MIME provides a consistent way to send and
   receive secure MIME data.  Digital signatures provide authentication,
   message integrity, and non-repudiation with proof of origin.
   Encryption provides data confidentiality.  Compression can be used to
   reduce data size.  This document obsoletes RFC 5751.

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