Re: [lamps] How to deal with Triple-DES in CMP Algorithms

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Fri, 23 October 2020 16:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lamps] How to deal with Triple-DES in CMP Algorithms
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S/MIME has moved to AES.  First it became a SHOULD, and then a MUST.

Changes from S/MIME v3 to S/MIME v3.1 included:

   -  The AES symmetric encryption algorithm has been included as a
      SHOULD implement.

Changes from S/MIME v3.1 to S/MIME v3.2 includes:

   -  Section 2.5.2: Replaced reference "sha1WithRSAEncryption" with
      "sha256WithRSAEncryption", replaced "DES-3EDE-CBC" with "AES-128
      CBC", and deleted the RC5 example.

Changes for S/MIME v4.0 includes:

   -  Updated the content-encryption algorithms (Sections 2.7 and
      2.7.1.2): added AES-256 Galois/Counter Mode (GCM), added
      ChaCha20-Poly1305, removed mention of AES-192 Cipher Block
      Chaining (CBC), and marked tripleDES as historic.

Russ

> On Oct 23, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Brockhaus, Hendrik <hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com> wrote:
> 
> In CMP (RFC 4210) Triple-DES CBC is used for encrypted key transport.
> In CMS Algorithms (RFC 3370) Triple-DES key wrap and CBC is specified.
> In RFC 8429 Triple-DES is deprecated for use in Kerberos.
> I see Triple-DES still in use for S/MIME and elsewhere.
> 
> Currently I am writing the I-D on CMP Algorithms.
> Should I specify Triple-DES as an alternative to AES or should I drop it?
> 
> Hendrik
> 
> 
> Hendrik Brockhaus
> Siemens AG
> mailto:hendrik.brockhaus@siemens.com
> 
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