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[lamps] Re: [TLS] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: Re: TLS Client Certificates; a survey

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Wed, 01 April 2026 22:55 UTC

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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2026 17:54:59 -0500
From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
To: Andrei Popov <Andrei.Popov=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 10:15:52PM +0000, Andrei Popov wrote:
> > While this is not the WebPKI, the Internet email system is not a
> > private PKI.
> 
> It is unfortunate that a change intended for the Web scenarios affects
> unrelated use-cases. Perhaps this is where improvement can be made

It's not just unfortunate.  It means that the policy was not well
thought out.

> (although this seems to be CA/B forum territory).

It was Google who did this.  What's the CABF got to do with it?  (Though
it does seem like the CABF acquiesced.)

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