Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth-02
Santosh Chokhani <santosh.chokhani@gmail.com> Tue, 31 January 2023 14:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth-02
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See inline -----Original Message----- From: Spasm [mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Seo Suchan Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 1:47 PM To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; LAMPS <spasm@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth-02 Not sure how it can used safely with backward compatible : If I want this to be backward compatible this would be extension on classical cert that points PQ certificate: but if one is in position to break the protocol why would one can trust this extension will point anything reasonable? for example attacker can point another RSA certificate they forged, or just strip this extension. [Santosh] You can protect against that by cryptographically binding the linked certificate by putting hash of the SPKI or hash of the whole certificate in the extension. 2023-01-06 오전 8:01에 Russ Housley 이(가) 쓴 글: > Do the changes that were made in -02 of the Internet-Draft resolve the concerns that were previously raised? > > On behalf of the LAMPS WG Chairs, > Russ > > >> On Sep 15, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: >> >> There has been some discussion of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth/. During the discussion at IETF 114, we agree to have a call for adoption of this document. >> >> Should the LAMPS WG adopt “Related Certificates for Use in Multiple Authentications within a Protocol” indraft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth-01? >> >> Please reply to this message by Friday, 30 September 2022 to voice your support or opposition to adoption. >> >> On behalf of the LAMPS WG Chairs, >> Russ >> > _______________________________________________ > Spasm mailing list > Spasm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm _______________________________________________ Spasm mailing list Spasm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm
- [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-guthrie… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption of draft… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Call for adoption of draft… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Corey Bonnell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Michael Jenkins
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… John Gray
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomas Gustavsson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption of d… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption of d… Rebecca Guthrie
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: Call for adoption of d… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Michael Jenkins
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomas Gustavsson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomas Gustavsson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomas Gustavsson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-guthrie… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… aebecke@uwe.nsa.gov
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Carl Wallace
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Carl Wallace
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Carl Wallace
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tadahiko Ito
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Julien Prat
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… aebecke@uwe.nsa.gov
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Michael Markowitz
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Kampanakis, Panos
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Seo Suchan
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Santosh Chokhani
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Tomofumi Okubo
- Re: [lamps] Call for adoption of draft-becker-gut… Russ Housley