Re: [lamps] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lamps-pkix-shake-08

"Joel M. Halpern" <> Sun, 31 March 2019 05:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lamps] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-lamps-pkix-shake-08
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Maybe a note that the assignment will take place once the drafts are 
approved, and that the RFC should coordiante with the authors and NIST 
on this?  (I presume we have done this before, and we do not have the 
problem we have in some other cases of "no number until RFC" / "no RFC 
until number".)


On 3/31/19 1:21 AM, Russ Housley wrote:
>> On Mar 30, 2019, at 5:55 AM, Joel Halpern via Datatracker <> wrote:
>> Reviewer: Joel Halpern
>> Review result: Almost Ready
>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
>> by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these comments just
>> like any other last call comments.
>> For more information, please see the FAQ at
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>> Document: draft-ietf-lamps-pkix-shake-08
>> Reviewer: Joel Halpern
>> Review Date: 2019-03-30
>> IETF LC End Date: 2019-04-10
>> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
>> Summary: This document is almost ready for publication as a Proposed Standard
>> Major issues:
>>     One of the key points of this RFC seems to be to assign the identifiers for
>>     the use of the two SHAKE variants.  It is thus confusing that the
>>     identifiers end with "TBD", and thus are not defined in this document.
> They will be assigned by NIST once they are sure that these are the identifiers that we want.  This is much the same as we do when IANA is ti assign the identifier.
> Russ