Re: [Speechsc] Question on Verification Result Device type
Christian Groves <Christian.Groves@nteczone.com> Fri, 12 June 2009 10:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Speechsc] Question on Verification Result Device type
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Hello Eric, I wasn't proposing to change anything. I just thought it would be good if they were described so that people new what they were. Nik gave some good background. Regards, Christian Eric Burger wrote: > Since these are terms of art, let's not change anything. > > On Jun 11, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Nik Waldron wrote: > >> Hi Christian, >> >> I'm not an expert on MRCPv2 but as someone working on Verification >> implementation and having some familiarity with the field I think that >> this is due to the time at which MRCPv2 was originally drafted. At that >> time (a part of) the state of the art was an idea known as handset >> normalisation or HNorm. HNorm set about solving the problem that >> different handsets had very different log likelihood ratio scores. >> There >> were several variants on the solution, but basically several scores for >> different utterances against the same voiceprint, or scores for the same >> utterance against the different voice prints (or a combination) were >> used >> to normalise the score. >> >> In particular the microphone type (carbon button, or electret) were >> major >> categories for distorting scores, and compensating for the microphone >> type >> found to be effective. I guess that in order for the system to >> operate in >> an online way (updating the sets used for normalisation), it might be >> necessary for the results to be categorised by microphone type (if >> known). >> Others more familiar with the motivations for these fields may wish to >> correct me. >> >> Things have moved on a bit since then, however if you do a search >> (HNorm, >> TNorm or CNorm) you should be able to find the relevant papers. If the >> engine you are interested in does not support / use these types of >> normalisation or identify the categories then I'm sure 'unknown' will >> satisfy the specification. >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> >> NIK WALDRON >> >> >> >> This is an email from Fujitsu Australia Limited, ABN 19 001 011 427. >> It is confidential to the ordinary user of the email address to which >> it was addressed and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged >> information. No one else may read, print, store, copy or forward all >> or any of it or its attachments. If you receive this email in error, >> please return to sender. Thank you. >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Speechsc mailing list >> Speechsc@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speechsc >> Supplemental web site: >> <http://www.standardstrack.com/ietf/speechsc> >
- [Speechsc] Question on Verification Result Device… Christian Groves
- Re: [Speechsc] Question on Verification Result De… Nik Waldron
- Re: [Speechsc] Question on Verification Result De… Eric Burger
- Re: [Speechsc] Question on Verification Result De… Christian Groves