Re: [spfbis] WGLC: draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14

Scott Kitterman <spf2@kitterman.com> Sat, 20 April 2013 23:40 UTC

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On Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:32:29 PM John Levine wrote:
> >>    Checking "HELO" promotes consistency of results and can reduce DNS
> >> 
> >> resource usage.
> >> 
> >> I understand the consistency, but how does doing two lookups rather
> >> than one reduce DNS resource usage?  Suggest just removing the second
> >> clause.
> >
> >Generally, the SPF record for HELO requires at most one additional DNS
> >lookup, so even if you have a relatively low rejection rate base on these
> >records, you can come out ahead on resource expenditure because it's
> >generally an inexpensive check compared to Mail From records.
> 
> Well, maybe.  If someone says "HELO hotmail.com" as some spamware has
> been known to do, you're going to do a lot of extra work before you
> look at the Mail From.

That's why it says "can reduce", not "does reduce".  In my experience, it's 
generally a savings, but there are certainly cases where it's not.

(snipped the rest since I vote let's not argue).

Scott K