Re: [spfbis] Review of draft-ietf-spfbis-experiment-05

Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Tue, 24 April 2012 15:46 UTC

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On Tue 24/Apr/2012 17:39:50 +0200 Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> 
> Quite frankly, if we had to do an evaluation of this as an experiment,
> we would have to criticise the experimental design in many ways, and
> the accidental pollution of the sample base is the least of the
> problems.  But that's not what we're trying to do.

Discussing the experimental setup is not our main task.  However, I
think that if we have precise critics to make we should go ahead,
especially if our experience could be useful for other experiments.
For example, we could answer why it took so many more years than
anticipated in order to reach a community consensus.