Re: [spfbis] WGLC: draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14 - Fully parse record *first*

"John Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 22 April 2013 14:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [spfbis] WGLC: draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14 - Fully parse record *first*
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In article <CABuGu1pebsfi+1JHRYoOmm1Q3xft2paOGi3zwXbxHjbR3tmnKw@mail.gmail.com> you write:
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>That leaves the ambiguity of handling -all in embedded (include:) records.
>What should be done if the sample foobar mechanism is being referenced in
>an included record?

At this point, I think we have to say that stuff like that is
undefined, since in reality it does whatever the code does, and it
happens so rarely that nobody cares.

Remember that a standard needs to tell people what to do to interoperate, but
it doesn't have to tell you want to do if someone else screws up.

R's,
John