Re: [splices] SIP INVOKE method

"Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)" <rifatyu@avaya.com> Wed, 18 May 2011 11:37 UTC

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From: "Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)" <rifatyu@avaya.com>
To: "Parthasarathi R (partr)" <partr@cisco.com>, "splices@ietf.org" <splices@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 07:37:18 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Parthasarathi R (partr) [mailto:partr@cisco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:57 PM
> To: Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat); splices@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [splices] SIP INVOKE method
> 
> Rifaat,
> 
> I skimmed through your draft. I like the idea of controlling remote UA action
> using new method (INVOKE). Few comments in the draft:
> 
> 1) Sec 4.1: SUBSCRIBE with expire=0 is used to terminate INVOKE dialog by
> INVOKE-Issuer. Whether it is ok to "INVOKE with expire=0" terminate INVOKE
> dialog as it avoids the dependency on SUBSCRIBE message to terminate.
> 
The new plan is to remove the implicit subscription.


> 2) I foresee the complexity in creating explicit subscription because two
> dialog creation methods (INVOKE & SUBSCRIBE) are used to make the single
> action. It will be good in case INVOKE acts similar to INVITE (Dialog creation
> & Action). INVITE has the implicit action like "ring the phone" or "auto-
> answer" whereas INVOKE has explicitly mention the action to be done in INVOKE-
> recipient.
> 
I am not sure that I understand your comment, but with the new plan the INVOKE will NOT create a dialog.


> 3) Do you foresee INVOKE dialog creation which change the action within INVOKE
> dialog. For example: Following three actions using single INVOKE dialog
> creation but updating the action based on the application information..
> 
>      Action 1:  Create the call
>      Action 2:  Hold the call
>      Action 3:  Terminate the call
> 
In this case, I expect the INVOKE-Issuer to first create a subscription and then to send the INVOKE requests in the context of that dialog.

> Thanks
> Partha
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: splices-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:splices-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:57 PM
> To: Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat); splices@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [splices] SIP INVOKE method
> Thank you all for your quick review and feedback so far.
> I will work on a new version of the draft that removes the implicit
> subscription.
> 
> Please, let me know if you have any other comments beside the implicit
> subscription issue.
> 
> Regards,
> Rifaat
> 
> 
> From: splices-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:splices-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Shekh-Yusef, Rifaat (Rifaat)
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:15 AM
> To: splices@ietf.org
> Subject: [splices] SIP INVOKE method
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As discussed in the last SPLICES WG meeting in Prague, the REFER method is
> overloaded and has limitations that prevents it from being the ideal method
> for action invocation.
> We have worked on the following new draft that defines a new SIP method to be
> used for invoking actions:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-yusef-splices-invoke/
> 
> We would appreciate it if people review the document and provide us with their
> feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> Rifaat
> 
> 
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