Re: [spring] 6MAN WGLC: draft-ietf-6man-sids

[Joel Halpern <[e-mail]>]

Robert, whether you "buy into limited domain" or not, it is in the RFC 
and was part of what the IESG considered when they approved it.  As 
such, unless you believe you can change the community consensus our 
specifications need to conform to that.

Yours,

Joel

On 10/8/2022 2:52 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> Hi Joel,
>
> I was hoping this is apparent so let me restate that I do not buy into 
> "limited domain" business for SRv6.
>
> I have N sites connected over v6 Internet. I want to send IPv6 packets 
> between my "distributed globally limited domain" without yet one more 
> encap.
>
> If there is any spec which mandates that someone will drop my IPv6 
> packets only because they contain SRH in the IPv6 header I consider 
> this an evil and unjustified action.
>
> Kind regards,
> Robert
>
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 7:40 PM Joel Halpern <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>     Robert, I am having trouble understanding your email.
>
>     1) A Domain would only filter the allocated SIDs plus what it
>     chooses to use for SRv6.
>
>     2) Whatever it a domain filters should be irrelevant to any other
>     domain, since by definition SRv6 is for use only within a limited
>     domain.  So as far as I can see there is no way a domain can apply
>     incorrect filtering.
>
>     Yours,
>
>     Joel
>
>     On 10/8/2022 3:16 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>>     Hi Suresh,
>>
>>         NEW:
>>         In case the deployments do not use this allocated prefix
>>         additional care needs to be exercised at network ingress and
>>         egress points so that SRv6 packets do not leak out of SR
>>         domains and they do not accidentally enter SR unaware domains.
>>
>>
>>     IMO this is too broad. I would say that such ingress filtering
>>     could/should happen only if dst or locator is within locally 
>>     configured/allocated prefixes. Otherwise it is pure IPv6 transit
>>     and I see no harm not to allow it.
>>
>>         Similarly as stated in Section 5.1 of RFC8754 packets
>>         entering an SR domain from the outside need to be configured
>>         to filter out the selected prefix if it is different from the
>>         prefix allocated here.
>>
>>
>>     Again the way I read it this kills pure IPv6 transit for SRv6
>>     packets. Why ?
>>
>>     (Well I know the answer to "why" from our endless discussions
>>     about SRv6 itself and network programming however I still see no
>>     need to mandate in any spec to treat SRv6 packets as
>>     unwanted/forbidden for pure IPv6 transit.)
>>
>>     Thx,
>>     R.
>