Re: [spring] [srcomp] compression analysis draft question on proposals analyzed

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Sat, 02 October 2021 11:51 UTC

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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2021 07:51:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: [spring] [srcomp] compression analysis draft question on proposals analyzed
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Thanks Darren!

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:23 PM Darren Dukes (ddukes) <ddukes=
40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Was: Re: [spring]
> draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression-02#section-4.1.1
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> I’m sending this note to redirect this question to the srcomp DT for an
> editorial fix, when the team meets next.
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> For the DT:
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> Each proposal, introduced in section 1, discusses how it supports 16-bit
> and 32-bit SIDs. However, Gyan’s question indicates this could be more
> clearly stated in the analysis draft to help readers less familiar with a
> proposal.  As such, section 1 can be improved accordingly.
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> Darren
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> On 2021-09-24, 1:32 PM, "spring" <spring-bounces@ietf.org> wrote:
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> Gyan,
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> You raise a very good point. In the analysis document, Tables 1 through 6
> and Tables 12 through 15 each contain only one column for the CSID. They do
> not indicate whether the number in that column were calculated using the
> NEXT-C-SID, REPLACE-C-SID, or NEXT-AND-REPLACE-C-SID. (That is, the do not
> indicate whether they were calculated using uSID, G-SID, or a combination
> of both).
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> Each of these tables should be modified, so that the CSID column is
> replaced by three columns (NEXT-C-SID, REPLACE-C-SID, and
> NEXT-AND-REPLACE-C-SID).
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> If the numbers in these columns are different from one another, this may
> inform our discussion about whether NEXT-C-SID, REPLACE-C-SID, and
> NEXT-AND-REPLACE-C-SID are different behaviors or different flavors of a
> behavior.
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> Ron
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> Juniper Business Use Only
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> *From:* spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Gyan Mishra
> *Sent:* Friday, September 24, 2021 9:56 AM
> *To:* SPRING WG <spring@ietf.org>;
> draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression@ietf.org;
> spring-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [spring]
> draft-filsfilscheng-spring-srv6-srh-compression-02#section-4.1.1
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> *[External Email. Be cautious of content]*
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> Dear Spring Authors
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> Please respond to this question the WG has related to which of the three
> SRv6 forwarding mechanisms called  flavors was inclusive of the compression
> analysis draft.
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> The Analysis draft is ambiguous as to which SRv6 forwarding plane flavor
> was part of the analysis.
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> This is a critical question that has come up by the WG and Chairs, and
> answering this question will help pave the way to an adoption call for
> C-SID.
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> Kind Regards
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> Gyan
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> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 3:33 PM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Authors
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> After having a few discussions on threads related to the SRv6 compression
> analysis draft results, as well as WG coming to consensus on a single SRv6
> compression solution, a few critical questions have come up related to
> C-SID draft that requires clarification by the authors.
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> The C-SID draft has 3 compression solutions below and is a combination of
> the two drafts below which introduces 2 of the 3 compression solutions with
> the  C-SID draft introduction of yet a 3rd compression solution.
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> Which of the 3 C-SID draft compression solutions was included as part of
> the DT analysis draft results and conclusion?
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> This is a critical question that needs to be answered for clarification on
> the C-SID draft solution.
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> As the WG has consensus on a single solution we need to have clarification
> from the authors which of the 3 compression solutions was included in the
> analysis.
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> The three solutions are very different and all would yield different
> analysis results.
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> I understand the authors have called the each solution a endpoint flavor
> which I see from the IANA codepoint allocations, however each flavor is a
> different solution.
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> https://www.iana.org/assignments/segment-routing/segment-routing.xhtml
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.iana.org/assignments/segment-routing/segment-routing.xhtml__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!XJMCrXOtpr7xttMYGJp3u6tAqsuXrjU7AVELZIzIUxBfFYjzkcL6axEYZR-kW_YB$>
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> So the WG as stated would like a single solution so now we need feedback
> from the authors which of the three solutions or endpoint flavors was part
> of the DT analysis draft that the authors would like to put forward as the
> single compression solution.
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> C-SID is a combination of the two drafts below:
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> Combination of the two drafts below:
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> G-SID - Generalized SID “REPLACE-C-SID”
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cl-spring-generalized-srv6-for-cmpr-03
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cl-spring-generalized-srv6-for-cmpr-03__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!XJMCrXOtpr7xttMYGJp3u6tAqsuXrjU7AVELZIzIUxBfFYjzkcL6axEYZXk5kUTn$>
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> SRv6 uSID micro-segment “ NEXT-C-SID”
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-filsfils-spring-net-pgm-extension-srv6-usid-10
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> Kind Regards
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> Gyan
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