Re: [spring] Managing "global" SIDs

So if you have to manually configure it what is the point to introduce
another layer of dependency ?

Moreover let's please keep reality check in mind where in a lot of networks
DHCP servers are managed by application folks which is completely different
org then networking people.  Now good luck going and telling server folks
what is SID and that they need to program static bindings for DHCP
management system every time such need arise in network group :)

Cheers,
R.

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 6:38 PM Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sasha,
>
> Most "normal" DHCP servers require manual configuration of some sort if
> you want to guarantee persistence of the assigned IP address (i.e. "static"
> DHCP). So we're back to "manual" management, even if the results of the
> manual management are conveyed by a dynamic protocol.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:53 AM Alexander Vainshtein <
> Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> wrote:
>
>> Robert, Kireeti and all,
>>
>> I think that both loopbacks and their association with SIDs should be
>> kept *persistent*.
>>
>>
>>
>> Whether such persistency is provided by the means of static
>> configuration, or by the means that are external to some dynamic protocol
>> is a different question.
>>
>> E.g., a “normal” DHCP client (like my office computer) may think that it
>> obtains a dynamic IP address in the company network from the DHCP server
>> every time I turn it on, but the DHCP server actually takes care to assign
>> to it the same IP address every time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does this help in any way?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sasha
>>
>>
>>
>> Office: +972-39266302
>>
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>>
>> Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Kireeti Kompella
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2019 6:36 PM
>> *To:* Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [spring] Managing "global" SIDs
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:09 AM Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kireeti,
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to challenge a bit your fundamental assumption which is to
>> state that while loopbacks are very important and locally significant and
>> warrant manual/nms provisioning SIDs are not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, what I said at the mike is that I believe that both loopbacks
>> and global SIDs should be managed by DHCP.  But that's a distraction; the
>> point at hand is whether global SIDs should be managed "manually" (or by
>> NMS or equivalent) (i.e., static), or by a protocol (say DHCP) (i.e.,
>> dynamic).  You say the former ... thanks for the feedback.
>>
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> Kireeti
>>
>>
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