Re: [spring] 6MAN WGLC: draft-ietf-6man-sids

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Mon, 10 October 2022 15:40 UTC

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Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:40:31 +0200
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> that domains using SRH filter it at ingress and egress edges.

*it* is a key here.

If document says (as I presume Suresh explained) that such ingress
filtering will be based on destination address of the packets being the new
SRv6 prefix or any other infra address of the AS - all is legal and great.

But you keep stating that filtering can also happen based on presence of
SRH alone - irrespective of the destination address of the packet. That is
something I have hard time to agree with.

Best,
R.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 5:35 PM Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

> There appear to be two separate issues, only one of which affects this
> document.
>
> The issue that affects this document is that the SRH document explicitly
> requires that domains using SRH filter it at ingress and egress edges.
> That is what is relevant for the document at hand.  And while some folks
> have envisioned use cases that violate that, the RFC is clear that it is
> prohibited.  (My reading is that this also applies to SRv6 in general,
> even when compressed SIDs with no SRH are used.)
>
> The question of whether, in doing enforcing that requirement a domain
> may filter more packets that should not be received is about how the
> operator chooses to enforce the requirement.  We are not specifying how
> the operator does the enforcement.
>
> The question of what transit domains are permitted to do is one that
> reasonable people appear to be able to differ on.  But it is not a
> relevant question for this draft.
>
> Yours,
>
> Joel
>
> On 10/10/2022 10:31 AM, Ole Troan wrote:
> > Joel,
> >
> >> On 10 Oct 2022, at 15:36, Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Eric, you seem to be objecting to something I did not say.  I have not
> asked, and do not expect, for the document to mandate or even suggest that
> arbitrary domains should drop packets with SRH.  I will note that given
> that SRH is explicitly for limited domains, an operator who chooses to drop
> such packets is well within his rights.  And I am told there are such
> operators.  But that is not what I asked for this document.
> > No, that would violate rfc8200.
> >
> > O.
>
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