Re: [spring] 6MAN WGLC: draft-ietf-6man-sids

Nick Buraglio <buraglio@es.net> Fri, 07 October 2022 11:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [spring] 6MAN WGLC: draft-ietf-6man-sids
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On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:15 PM Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

> I wonder if we could / should add a sentence or two related to the address
> block noting that if an operator chooses to use other address blocks for
> the SRv6 SIDs then they need to be extra careful about configuring their
> edge filters to prevent leaks inwards or outwards?
>

This is a large concern I have heard within the operational community and I
believe it should be noted as a best operational practice.

> Yours,
>
> Joel
> On 10/6/2022 10:34 PM, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
>
> Hi Dhruv,
>
> On Oct 5, 2022, at 12:27 AM, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Suresh,
>
> Thanks for taking the comments into consideration. Snip to just two
> points...
>
>
>
>> - Do we need to add some text on what happens if the address block
>> assigned by IANA is not used in the received IPv6 packet?
>>
>> Dhruv: Any thoughts on this?
>
>
> This block is not mandatory to use. The packet will be processed as any
> other IPv6 packet would. Is there something specific you are worried about?
>
>
>
>> - This text "This would be useful in identifying and potentially
>> filtering packets at the edges of the SR Domains as described in Section
>> 4.1.". But section 4.1 of this I-D does not have any text for this! Do
>> you mean some other document?
>>
>>
>> This is in reference to the following text in 4.1
>> " In this case, to allow the SR domain to fail closed, some form of
>> filtering based on the LOC part of the SRv6 SID is required as relying
>> purely on the presence of an SRH will not be sufficient.”
>>
>> Please let me know if I can clarify this further.
>>
>>
> Dhruv: I got confused because section 4.1 is meant to be only about C-SID.
> My suggestion would be to avoid the reference and just put the relevant
> sentence there for emphasis and clarity.
>
>
> Sounds good. Will do.
>
> Thanks
> Suresh
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