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no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-spring.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6 Precedence: list Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5Bspring=5D_Re=3A_Fwd=3A_IETF_WG_state_changed_for_draft-ietf-spr?= =?utf-8?q?ing-cs-sr-policy?= List-Id: "Source Packet Routing in NetworkinG (SPRING)" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --_000_MN2PR04MB598199BA47CF54169886D550AFF42MN2PR04MB5981namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WG, I endorse the WG document and believe that it is ready for the next step. It is an important work that is addressing the need of some service provide= rs. Having said that, (we =96 Amal and myself) would like to bring up a point t= hat was made to the author, a couple of meetings ago. This is about a candidate path (CP) using multiple SID lists for the b/w ad= vantage. In such configuration, if a SID list has faulted, B/W is technically degrad= ed but candidate path hosting the multiple SID lists will continue to be opera= tional. To that point, we believe that =91eligibility=92 flag for the candidate pat= h to influence the use of the CP or not, can be helpful (very much like LAG min = link). There are two options for added verbiage that describes the scenario and ho= w to tackle. A) not-a-problem if CP uses single SID list (which is most common implement= ation anyways) OR B) provide reference to =91eligibility=92 draft as a possible solution (you= are part of that effort=85). Either option works. This is a recommendation for authors to consider. Thanks, Himanshu (ciena corp) -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-policy Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 08:52:25 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: alias-bounces@ietf.org Resent-To: aretana.ietf@gmail.com, bruno.decraene@orang= e.com, jmh@joelhalpern.com, pengshuping@huawei.com Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 08:52:11 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat To: draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org, spring-chairs@ietf.org The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-policy has been changed to "In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-policy/ Comment: This starts the working group last call for this draft. There was sufficien= t engagement and interest to justify issueing this call. Even so, we need to see support to pass the last call. Please comment, preferably with explanations, as to your support or opposition to handing this draft to our AD for processing. Silence is not consent. This call will end at the end of the day on Monday, Feb 3. --_000_MN2PR04MB598199BA47CF54169886D550AFF42MN2PR04MB5981namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

WG,

 

I endorse the WG document and believe that it is ready for = the next step.

 

It is an important work that is addressing the need of some= service providers.

 

Having said that, (we =96 Amal and myself) would like to br= ing up a point that

was made to the author, a couple of meetings ago.

 

This is about a candidate path (CP) using multiple SID list= s for the b/w advantage.

In such configuration, if a SID list has faulted, B/W is te= chnically degraded

but candidate path hosting the multiple SID lists will cont= inue to be operational.

To that point, we believe that =91eligibility=92 flag for t= he candidate path to

influence the use of the CP or not, can be helpful (very mu= ch like LAG min link).

 

There are two options for added verbiage that describes the= scenario and how to tackle.

A) not-a-problem if CP uses single SID list (which is most = common implementation anyways) OR

B) provide reference to =91eligibility=92 draft as a possib= le solution (you are part of that effort=85).

 

Either option works. This is a recommendation for authors t= o consider.

 

 

Thanks,

Himanshu

(ciena corp)

 

 



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Subjec= t:

IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-po= licy

Resent= -Date:

Mon, 20 Jan 2025 08:52:25 -0800 (PST)

Resent= -From:

alias-boun= ces@ietf.org

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aretana.ie= tf@gmail.com, bruno.decraene@orange.com,= jmh@joelhalpern.com, pengshup= ing@huawei.com

Date: =

Mon, 20 Jan 2025 08:52:11 -0800

From: =

IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>

To:

draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org, spring-chairs@ietf.org




The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-policy has been changed to &qu= ot;In
WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-cs-sr-policy/

Comment:
This starts the working group last call for this draft. There was sufficien= t
engagement and interest to justify issueing this call. Even so, we need to<= br> see support to pass the last call. Please comment, preferably with
explanations, as to your support or opposition to handing this draft to our=
AD for processing. Silence is not consent. This call will end at the end of=
the day on Monday, Feb 3.

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