Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Sun, 01 March 2020 13:32 UTC
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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2020 14:32:18 +0100
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To: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
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Subject: Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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Hi Robert, yes, the path probably will be the same regardless whether PSP was applied or not. But performance metrics, e.g. packet delay, may be different for OAM and "regular" packets. Regards, Greg On Sun, Mar 1, 2020, 14:08 Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote: > Nope. > > Node can advertise two SIDs or PSP in a given network may be a well know > function (to limit IGP burden) Example: odd SID includes PSP and even SID > does not. > > O*A*M packets can use on the exact same path but the penultimate hop > traversal is directed by even SID and is not subject to PSP.. > > Done. > > Thx, > R. > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 5:50 AM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> > wrote: > >> Presuming that by "OEM" you mean "OAM", then no, this does not work. >> If the OAM is intended to monitor a path that has a last SID whose >> flavor is PSP, then something will break. The monitoring will monitor >> something else, or it won't monitor the last hop, or... >> >> Given the point that was made that ignoring a source route (SRH or >> otherwise) with segments-left = 0 is a mandatory behavior of 8200, I am >> really left puzzled as to what use case justifies the contortion of PSP. >> >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >
- [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to close… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Bob Hinden
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… 神明達哉
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Wang, Weibin (NSB - CN/Shanghai)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [spring] SRv6 OAM Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… 神明達哉
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Darren Dukes (ddukes)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… 神明達哉
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… John Scudder
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… 神明達哉
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… 神明達哉
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to c… 神明達哉