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Joel,

I'm a non-author supporting the WG adopting this draft. It can (and most
likely will) be used to provide bandwidth guarantees, end-to-end recovery,
and persistent paths for PWs as defined in the PWE3 and PALS WGs, thus my
interest.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 11:13=E2=80=AFAM Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com>=
 wrote:

> In case it is not clear to folks, the chairs are particularly itnerested
> in hearing from folks who are not authors of the document, but have
> opinions on whether this is good work for the WG to undertake.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Joel
> On 5/19/2023 10:11 AM, Andrew Stone (Nokia) wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> As co-author, also support adoption.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *From: *"Rokui, Reza" <rrokui@ciena.com> <rrokui@ciena.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 7:29 AM
> *To: *IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
> <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>,
> "draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org"
> <draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org>
> <draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org>
> <draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org>, "spring-chairs@ietf.org"
> <spring-chairs@ietf.org> <spring-chairs@ietf.org> <spring-chairs@ietf.org=
>,
> "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org> <spring@ietf.org> <spring@ietf.org>,
> "Rokui, Reza" <rrokui@ciena.com> <rrokui@ciena.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed
> draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"
> *Resent-From: *<alias-bounces@ietf.org> <alias-bounces@ietf.org>
> *Resent-To: *<andrew.stone@nokia.com> <andrew.stone@nokia.com>,
> <praveen.maheshwari@airtel.com> <praveen.maheshwari@airtel.com>,
> <zali@cisco.com> <zali@cisco.com>, <rrokui@ciena.com> <rrokui@ciena.com>,
> <cschmutz@cisco.com> <cschmutz@cisco.com>
> *Resent-Date: *Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 7:29 AM
>
>
>
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> As co-author, I support the adoption.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Reza
>
>
>
> *From: *IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
> <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 10:04 AM
> *To: *draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org
> <draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org>
> <draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org>, spring-chairs@ietf.org
> <spring-chairs@ietf.org> <spring-chairs@ietf.org>, spring@ietf.org
> <spring@ietf.org> <spring@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has placed
> draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"
>
>
> The SPRING WG has placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state
> Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Joel Halpern)
>
> The document is available at
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schmut=
zer-spring-cs-sr-policy/__;!!OSsGDw!PrF5MLj2VoK47BuWO76oeewImBaGMafe294qNON=
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zer-spring-cs-sr-policy/__;!!OSsGDw!PrF5MLj2VoK47BuWO76oeewImBaGMafe294qNON=
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> [datatracker[.]ietf[.]org]
>
> Comment:
> This starts a two week adoption call for the subject draft.  Please speak
> up
> if you support or object to WG adoption.  Two notes: 1) WG adoption is th=
e
> start of the process.  The basic question is whether you agree that the
> subject is worth the working group time to work on, and whether this
> represents a good starting point for the work. 2) Please include
> explanation
> for your view.  Yes or no are not very helpful answers, as this is not a
> vote
> but an evaluation of support and concerns. Thank you, Joel (for the WG
> Chairs)
>
> We expect to close this call at the end of May, 2023.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Joel,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m a non-author supporting=
=C2=A0the WG adopting this draft. It can (and most likely will) be used to =
provide=C2=A0bandwidth guarantees, end-to-end recovery, and persistent path=
s for PWs as defined in the PWE3 and PALS WGs, thus my interest.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 19, 2=
023 at 11:13=E2=80=AFAM Joel Halpern &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.=
com">jmh@joelhalpern.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <p>In case it is not clear to folks, the chairs are particularly
      itnerested in hearing from folks who are not authors of the
      document, but have opinions on whether this is good work for the
      WG to undertake.</p>
    <p>Thank you,</p>
    <p>Joel<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 5/19/2023 10:11 AM, Andrew Stone
      (Nokia) wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
     =20
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hi all,<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">As
            co-author, also support adoption.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Thanks<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Andrew<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p>
        <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none=
;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm">
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:bla=
ck">From: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">&quot;Rokui=
, Reza&quot;
              <a href=3D"mailto:rrokui@ciena.com" target=3D"_blank">&lt;rro=
kui@ciena.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 7:29 AM<br>
              <b>To: </b>IETF Secretariat
              <a href=3D"mailto:ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org" target=3D"=
_blank">&lt;ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org&gt;</a>,
              <a href=3D"mailto:draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.or=
g" target=3D"_blank">&quot;draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org&quo=
t;</a>
              <a href=3D"mailto:draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.or=
g" target=3D"_blank">&lt;draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@ietf.org&gt;</=
a>,
              <a href=3D"mailto:spring-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">&=
quot;spring-chairs@ietf.org&quot;</a> <a href=3D"mailto:spring-chairs@ietf.=
org" target=3D"_blank">&lt;spring-chairs@ietf.org&gt;</a>,
              <a href=3D"mailto:spring@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">&quot;sp=
ring@ietf.org&quot;</a> <a href=3D"mailto:spring@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank=
">&lt;spring@ietf.org&gt;</a>, &quot;Rokui, Reza&quot;
              <a href=3D"mailto:rrokui@ciena.com" target=3D"_blank">&lt;rro=
kui@ciena.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: [**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has
              placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state
              &quot;Candidate for WG Adoption&quot;<br>
              <b>Resent-From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:alias-bounces@ietf.org"=
 target=3D"_blank">&lt;alias-bounces@ietf.org&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Resent-To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:andrew.stone@nokia.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">&lt;andrew.stone@nokia.com&gt;</a>,
              <a href=3D"mailto:praveen.maheshwari@airtel.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">&lt;praveen.maheshwari@airtel.com&gt;</a>,
              <a href=3D"mailto:zali@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">&lt;zali@=
cisco.com&gt;</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:rrokui@ciena.com" target=3D"_blank">&l=
t;rrokui@ciena.com&gt;</a>,
              <a href=3D"mailto:cschmutz@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">&lt;c=
schmutz@cisco.com&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Resent-Date: </b>Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 7:29 AM<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p>
        </div>
        <table style=3D"width:100%;display:table;float:none" width=3D"100%"=
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.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 11.25pt" width=3D"100%">
                <div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>You don&#39;t often
                      get email from <a href=3D"mailto:rrokui@ciena.com" ta=
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        </table>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;display:none=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
          <table style=3D"width:100%" width=3D"100%" cellspacing=3D"0" cell=
padding=3D"0" border=3D"0" align=3D"left">
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                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;colo=
r:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>
                </td>
                <td style=3D"width:100%;background:rgb(255,248,229);padding=
:5pt 4pt 5pt 12pt" width=3D"100%">
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
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          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hi,<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">As
                co-author, I support the adoption.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Cheers,<u=
></u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Reza<u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
            <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:=
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              <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">From:
                  </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">IET=
F
                  Secretariat <a href=3D"mailto:ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf=
.org" target=3D"_blank">&lt;ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 10:04 AM<br>
                  <b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr=
-policy@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy@iet=
f.org</a>
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t;</a>,
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get=3D"_blank">&lt;spring-chairs@ietf.org&gt;</a>,
                  <a href=3D"mailto:spring@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">spri=
ng@ietf.org</a> <a href=3D"mailto:spring@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">&lt;sp=
ring@ietf.org&gt;</a><br>
                  <b>Subject: </b>[**EXTERNAL**] The SPRING WG has
                  placed draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state
                  &quot;Candidate for WG Adoption&quot;<u></u><u></u></span=
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                  The SPRING WG has placed
                  draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy in state<br>
                  Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Joel Halpern)<br>
                  <br>
                  The document is available at<br>
                  <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker=
.ietf.org/doc/draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy/__;!!OSsGDw!PrF5MLj2VoK47=
BuWO76oeewImBaGMafe294qNONXqhmq7i57ixXHdL_zK2azlh1DsID1fgczKQ2sDmGvgCW8AZU$=
" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/doc/draft-schmutzer-spring-cs-sr-policy/__;!!OSsGDw!PrF5MLj2VoK47BuWO76oe=
ewImBaGMafe294qNONXqhmq7i57ixXHdL_zK2azlh1DsID1fgczKQ2sDmGvgCW8AZU$</a>
                  [datatracker[.]ietf[.]org]<br>
                  <br>
                  Comment:<br>
                  This starts a two week adoption call for the subject
                  draft.=C2=A0 Please speak up<br>
                  if you support or object to WG adoption.=C2=A0 Two notes:
                  1) WG adoption is the<br>
                  start of the process.=C2=A0 The basic question is whether
                  you agree that the<br>
                  subject is worth the working group time to work on,
                  and whether this<br>
                  represents a good starting point for the work. 2)
                  Please include explanation<br>
                  for your view.=C2=A0 Yes or no are not very helpful
                  answers, as this is not a vote<br>
                  but an evaluation of support and concerns. Thank you,
                  Joel (for the WG Chairs)<br>
                  <br>
                  We expect to close this call at the end of May, 2023.<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p>
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