[spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming
"Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com> Sat, 27 July 2024 14:59 UTC
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From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com>
To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein=40rbbn.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming@ietf.org" <draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming@ietf.org>
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Subject: [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming
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Hi Sasha, Thanks for your question at the mic. Please see some replies inline: ________________________________________ From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein=40rbbn.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 5:27 To: draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming@ietf.org Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: [spring] My question at the mike about draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming Hi all, Just repeating the question about the draft<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dong-spring-srv6-inter-layer-programming-08> I’ve asked at he mike at the SPRING WG session today. * Suppose that there is an underlay link between a pair of IP nodes that is not “visible in he L3 topology”. To me this means that there no P-capable (logical) interfaces associated with the endpoints of this underlay link [Jie] The interface of the underlay link is not L3-capable, while it still can have some packet processing capability. You may consider it as a layer-2 logical interface. * Suppose further that one of these nodes (the upstream one) allocates and advertises an SID with End.XU behavior for this underlay link * The upstream node receives an IPv6 packets with the tops SRv6 SID on it being the End.XU. It strips this SID (this the common behavior of all End-like SIDs) and send the resulting IPv6 packet across the link to the downstream node/\. Now the question: How should the downstream node process the received packet if its local endpoint of the undelay link s not associated with an IP-capable logical interface? [Jie] Similar to what I said above, the receiving interface is not L3-capable, while it can receive and process the packet properly in layer-2, the inner L3 packet header can be processed by the node. If the endpoints of the underlay ink are associated with L3 interfaces in both nodes, the link becomes visible in L3 topology, and a regular End.X SID can be allocated and advertised for it. [Jie] As described in the draft, making it an L3 adjacency between the two endpoints is both challenging and unnecessary. And operator does not want this link to be visible in L3 topology. Thus regular End.X SID does not meet the requirement here. Hope this help to answer your question. Best regards, Jie Hopefully this clarifies my question. Regards, Sasha Disclaimer This e-mail together with any attachments may contain information of Ribbon Communications Inc. and its Affiliates that is confidential and/or proprietary for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, disclosure, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and then delete all copies, including any attachments.
- [spring] My question at the mike about draft-dong… Alexander Vainshtein
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Ketan Talaulikar
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question at the mi… Alexander Vainshtein
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Gyan Mishra
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Alexander Vainshtein
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike aboutdraft-d… Joel Halpern
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… 韩柳燕
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike aboutdraft-d… 韩柳燕
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Gyan Mishra
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- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… 韩柳燕
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [spring] Re: My question at the mikeaboutdraft-do… Joel Halpern
- [spring] Re: My question at the mike about draft-… Gyan Mishra
- [spring] Re: My question at themikeaboutdraft-don… 韩柳燕
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question at the mi… Alexander Vainshtein
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question at the mi… 韩柳燕
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question at the mi… Alexander Vainshtein
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question at themik… 韩柳燕
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question atthemike… 韩柳燕
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question atthemike… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question at the mi… 张乃晗(联通集团科技创新部)
- [spring] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: My question at the mi… Zafar Ali (zali)