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Re: [spring] Requirements towards OAM in Segment Routing network

Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> Fri, 19 May 2017 08:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [spring] Requirements towards OAM in Segment Routing network
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Speaking as co-chair.

I also believe that the WG should focus on producing meaningful material 
we can submit to IESG with confidence.

In fact we have discussed with the authors of 
draft-ietf-spring-sr-oam-requirement and out of the replies I have 
received, consensus was not to push this document to IESG.

-m

Le 17/05/2017 à 17:18, Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I do not believe SPRING should work
> on draft-ietf-spring-sr-oam-requirement. It makes more sense to focus on
> solutions than these weak and sparse requirements for very diverse set
> of potential protocols (LSP Ping, BFD, S-BFD, SRv6 OAMs, etc).
>
> Thanks,
>
> — Carlos.
>
>> On May 16, 2017, at 4:18 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com
>> <mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Authors,
>> I'd like to bring your attention to the WG document OAM Requirements
>> for Segment Routing Network
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-sr-oam-requirement-03>.
>> I think that many requirements listed in your document are common
>> requirements for OAM in Segment Routing network listed in the above
>> mentioned document.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Greg
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