Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn
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Subject: Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn
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From: spring [mailto:spring-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of peng.shaofu@zte.com.cn Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2021 11:53 AM To: james.n.guichard@futurewei.com Cc: spring@ietf.org; spring-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn Hi WG/authors, I have to point out that the VTN-ID in draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn is actually the AII in draft-peng-teas-network-slicing, just a new name. That can be seen from the evolution of the historical versions of the these two drafts. [Jie] The VTN (virtual network) concept is introduced in draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn, which is long before the draft you mentioned. In control plane, a VTN can be identified by existing control plane IDs, and VTN-ID is used when multiple VTNs share the same topology. IMO this is different from what the AII is used for. I draw your attention to draft draft-peng-teas-network-slicing which analyzes in detail the reasons for the introduction of slice identifier (AII) in the network, and maintains the resource partition of each slice and the allocation of SID per AII in the network. All this happened before draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn. [Jie] If you follow the SPRING WG closely, you would know that the first version of draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn was submitted in March 2018, which is one and a half year earlier than the draft you mentioned. And if you want people to read or discuss another draft, you could start a thread in the WG which the draft belongs to. In addition, the idea that multiple slices share the same virtual topology (such as flex-algo) is also copied from draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet, which can significantly reduce the state in the network, especially without maintaining SPT per slice, which means that multiple SIDs per slice can share the forwarding action of SPT per VN and at the same time can do resource guarantee by SID per slice (or slice-id in packet). [Jie] The mechanism of multiple VTNs sharing the same topology was first described in draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-vtn-scalability one year ago in Feb 2020. Further discussion about the scalability optimizations in that document will happen in the TEAS WG. Best regards, Jie Thus, from a purely technical point of view, I see no reason for this document to be adopted. Regards, PSF 原始邮件 发件人:JamesGuichard 收件人:spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>; 抄送人:spring-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:spring-chairs@ietf.org>; 日 期 :2021年01月27日 19:47 主 题 :[spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn _______________________________________________ spring mailing list spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spring Dear WG: This message starts a 2 week WG adoption call for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn/ ending February 10th 2021. After review of the document please indicate support (or not) for WG adoption to the mailing list and if you are willing to work on the document, please state this explicitly. This gives the chairs an indication of the energy level of people in the working group willing to work on this document. Please also provide comments/reasons for your support (or lack thereof) as this is a stronger way to indicate your (non) support as this is not a vote. Thanks! Jim, Bruno & Joel
- [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-s… James Guichard
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… duzongpeng@foxmail.com
- [spring] 回复: WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… zhuyq8
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… li_zhenqiang@hotmail.com
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Huzhibo
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Mach Chen
- [spring] 答复: WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… qinfengwei
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… xiechf@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… 刘鹏
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Ran Pang(联通集团中国联通研究院- 本部)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Lou Berger
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Takuya Miyasaka
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Gengxuesong (Geng Xuesong)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Tarek Saad
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Tarek Saad
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Lizhenbin
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Giuseppe Fioccola
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Tarek Saad
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… stefano previdi
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Tarek Saad
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Colby Barth
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… chenhuan6@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Zhuangzhuang Qin(联通北京市北京市分 公司)
- [spring] When we have multiple proposals addressi… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [spring] When we have multiple proposals addr… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Loa Andersson
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Francois Clad (fclad)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Vishnu Pavan Beeram
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Ahmed MostafaSaleh ElSawaf
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… peng.shaofu
- Re: [spring] When we have multiple proposals addr… peng.shaofu
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… peng.shaofu
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Tarek Saad
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Shunsuke Homma
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… chen.ran
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Yingzhen Qu
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Chengli (Cheng Li)
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Luc-Fabrice Ndifor Ngwa [ MTN Cameroon ]
- Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spri… Luis M. Contreras