Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn

"Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com> Sun, 07 February 2021 06:08 UTC

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From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn




Hi WG/authors,



I have to point out that the VTN-ID in draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn is actually the AII in draft-peng-teas-network-slicing, just a new name. That can be seen from the evolution of the historical versions of the these two drafts.



[Jie] The VTN (virtual network) concept is introduced in draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn, which is long before the draft you mentioned.

In control plane, a VTN can be identified by existing control plane IDs, and VTN-ID is used when multiple VTNs share the same topology. IMO this is different from what the AII is used for.



I draw your attention to draft draft-peng-teas-network-slicing which analyzes in detail the reasons for the introduction of slice identifier (AII) in the network, and maintains the resource partition of each slice and the allocation of SID per AII in the network. All this happened before draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn.



[Jie] If you follow the SPRING WG closely, you would know that the first version of draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn was submitted in March 2018, which is one and a half year earlier than the draft you mentioned.

And if you want people to read or discuss another draft, you could start a thread in the WG which the draft belongs to.



In addition, the idea that multiple slices share the same virtual topology (such as flex-algo) is also copied from draft-bestbar-teas-ns-packet, which can significantly reduce the state in the network, especially without maintaining SPT per slice, which means that multiple SIDs per slice can share the forwarding action of SPT per VN and at the same time can do resource guarantee by SID per slice (or slice-id in packet).



[Jie] The mechanism of multiple VTNs sharing the same topology was first described in draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-vtn-scalability one year ago in Feb 2020. Further discussion about the scalability optimizations in that document will happen in the TEAS WG.



Best regards,

Jie



Thus, from a purely technical point of view, I see no reason for this document to be adopted.



Regards,

PSF






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Dear WG:

This message starts a 2 week WG adoption call for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn/ ending February 10th 2021.

After review of the document please indicate support (or not) for WG adoption to the mailing list and if you are willing to work on the document, please state this explicitly. This gives the chairs an indication of the energy level of people in the working group willing to work on this document. Please also provide comments/reasons for your support (or lack thereof) as this is a stronger way to indicate your (non) support as this is not a vote.

Thanks!

Jim, Bruno & Joel