Re: [Spud] [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options-01.txt

Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Wed, 22 July 2015 12:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Spud] [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options-01.txt
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I don't have data, but I am interested in such measurements. I 
previously proposed UDPTT, which if agreed would allow UDP-Lite-based 
behaviour for a tunnel:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fairhurst-6man-tsvwg-udptt-03

Maybe we should be bolder to allow UDP-Lite behaviour on the UDP 
protocol number?

This would allow the options usage also - all/any of these would require 
some network observations to determine what actually is passable across 
a path and what are the actual sideffects. RFC 6936 discussed potential 
failures, but presents no data.

Gorry

On 22/07/2015 08:22, Brian Trammell wrote:
> hi Joe,
>
> Thanks for this draft; I appreciate the elegant redundancy-reducing length hack. :)
>
> Data in this case is, I know, hard to come by, but would you have any feel for how much stuff out there will just break when they see an inconsistency between IP and UDP length information?
>
> Thanks, cheers,
>
> Brian
>
>> On 22 Jul 2015, at 00:12, Joe Touch<touch@isi.edu>  wrote:
>>
>> FYI. Minor changes for clarification.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options-01.txt
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:04:46 -0700
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> To: Dr. Joseph D. Touch<touch@isi.edu>du>, Joe Touch<touch@isi.edu>
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options-01.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Joe Touch and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:		draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options
>> Revision:	01
>> Title:		Transport Options for UDP
>> Document date:	2015-07-21
>> Group:		Individual Submission
>> Pages:		8
>> URL:
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options-01.txt
>> Status:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options/
>> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options-01
>> Diff:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-touch-tsvwg-udp-options-01
>>
>> Abstract:
>>    Transport protocols are extended through the use of transport header
>>    options. This document experimentally extends UDP to provide a
>>    location, syntax, and semantics for transport layer options.
>>
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