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Re: [Spud] updated draft PLUS charter, rev. 1 June

🔓Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com> Tue, 14 June 2016 19:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Spud] updated draft PLUS charter, rev. 1 June
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On 14-Jun-2016 06:45 am, Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> On Monday, June 13, 2016, Szilveszter Nadas <Szilveszter.Nadas@ericsson.com <mailto:Szilveszter.Nadas@ericsson.com>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> > It would be useful if whatever comes out of an eventual PLUS working group
> > could be implemented either over UDP or IPv6 EH, since the lack of access to
> > EH problem is simply a matter of changing APIs. But I'm not convinced that's a
> > hard requirement.
> 
> Is a separate protocol number for SPUD also an option? Then the happy eyeball mechanism used could also consider that.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sz.
> 
> 
> All my concerns with spud and quic would be solved by using a new protocol number since it would allow for the network to, at scale, identify good spud/quic traffic from the known bad  udp ddos mess
> 
> This network operator concern has been repeatedly ignored since it is easier to access udp in userspace. 
> 
> This conflict will not end well if not addressed 


See the just-published https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-quic-network-req-00#section-2 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-quic-network-req-00#section-2>.

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