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Re: [Spud] New Version Notification for draft-hildebrand-spud-prototype-02.txt

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Tue, 17 March 2015 05:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Spud] New Version Notification for draft-hildebrand-spud-prototype-02.txt
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Catching up...

> On 12 Mar 2015, at 1:52 am, Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Brian Trammell <ietf@trammell.ch> wrote:
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> Perhaps we can apply the question that led to the separation of TCP and IP in the first place: does the path need to see it / can the path do something universally useful with it? Put it in SPUD. Is it end-to-end? Stick it above SPUD, encrypt it, and hide the key from the path.
> 
> I like that as a guiding principle

+1 here too. Nice way to avoid this becoming an application services kitchen sink.

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