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Re: [Spud] updated draft PLUS charter, rev. 1 June

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 07 June 2016 20:25 UTC

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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 13:25:03 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Spud] updated draft PLUS charter, rev. 1 June
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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Hi Ted!
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> So, we are creating an extension to UDP then, yes?  Why not call it that?
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Well, because "extension" doesn't sound like you're creating an
encapsulating substrate?

I don't really want to paint the bikeshed too much over this, but if you
think "substrate" is hurting people's understanding of what this effort is
trying to do, we can certainly consider other terms.  Almost all of the
obvious ones are heavily overloaded, at least as I number them off on my
fingers and toes, though, so we may be stuck with phrases ("path-layer UDP
substrate") or invented metasyntactic variables ("fleen").

Ted




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