Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why?

Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> Mon, 13 July 2015 18:12 UTC

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:11:48 -0700
From: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why?
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On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 10:51:32AM -0700, Joe Touch wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/13/2015 10:25 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> ...
> > Teardown:
> > 
> > Explicit teardown in TCP doesn't seem to be bad enough of a
> > problem that TCP was changed, right ? 
> 
> See RFCs 4953 and 5961. This is also one reason why BGP sessions use
> either graceful restart (4724 - to reduce the impact of the lost
> connection) or are directly protected against spoofing by TCP MD5 (2385)
> or TCP-AO (5925).
> 
> I.e., TCP and TCP uses were changed to address this issue.

Right, my choice of words wasn't ideal. I meant to say that we
should ismply consider applying fundamentally the same mechanisms
used with TCP, just simplified wherever possible. MD5/A0 do seem to
make a lot of sense.

Cheers
    Toerless