Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why?
Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Mon, 13 July 2015 17:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why?
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On 7/13/15 7:19 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Spud [mailto:spud-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> On Monday, July 13, 2015 5:10 AM, Mirja Kühlewind wrote: >> ... >> As described above it’s more about network state then client state. However, >> you probably will always need timers because you can never be sure that certain >> information will be delivered. However, if you can get more explicitly signals >> (and that’s why we also would like to have a SPUD finish/stop packet) you can >> assist network nodes as well as end host to e.g remove state quicker and maybe >> also use SPUD to set timer values correctly (see the use case draft). > We have to account for possible route changes, without the endpoint being aware. Unless p2a informs the a of the change. Eliot
- [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Jacob Chappell
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Christian Huitema
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Joe Touch
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Eliot Lear
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Joe Touch
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Spud] Connect and ACK Bits: Why? Toerless Eckert