Re: [ssm] msnip status
Isidor Kouvelas <kouvelas@cisco.com> Thu, 20 October 2005 07:51 UTC
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Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:51:03 -0700
From: Isidor Kouvelas <kouvelas@cisco.com>
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To: Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [ssm] msnip status
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Cc: Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>, ssm mailing list <ssm@ietf.org>
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FWIW I do not think that dropping the MRD option was a show stopper for MSNIP. The reason the work stalled was that there was no interest. I agree with Toerless that it was a key piece for SSM. Isidor Toerless Eckert wrote: > Brian: What exactly where the points that stopped the last MSNIP draft > from moving forward ? I unfortunately don't remember the details, > and in general i'm of course annoyed that there's no good means in the > IETF to keep that last work status summary alive in case it needs to > get picked up again. > > I think MSNIP tried to solve a key functionality for the SSM architecture, > and while it may be possible to ad-hoc hack something similar up once > somebody requires it, i still think that it would be good to have an > IETF recommendation for this functionality. > > If we were to release an RFC, we could make it informational. I don't > think that MSNIP itself needs to be focussed on what Pekka is claiming > "universal adoption". Because it only applies to sources, it will always > tender only to comparably much fewer places than for example IGMP. > > Cheers > Toerless > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 12:40:30PM -0400, Brian Haberman wrote: > >>Hi Stig, >> The consensus is that msnip is not the solution people want. >>Additionally, there has been no one volunteering to work on the >>problem in general. >> >> Combining MSNIP with MRD doesn't make a lot of sense >>and any such plans were abandoned. >> >> If you have people interested in the problem, have them bring >>forth ideas. >> >>Regards, >>Brian >> >>On Oct 19, 2005, at 8:48, Stig Venaas wrote: >> >> >>>Now that magma is being shut down, what is the future of >>>draft-ietf-magma-msnip? I know several people that are >>>interested in seeing this work continue. Are there any >>>plans for that, or has it more or less been decided that >>>this is not the way to go? I know there were discussions >>>on combining it with MRD, but don't think that went >>>anywhere. >>> >>>Stig >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>ssm mailing list >>>ssm@ietf.org >>>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm > > > > >>_______________________________________________ >>ssm mailing list >>ssm@ietf.org >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm > > > _______________________________________________ ssm mailing list ssm@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ssm
- [ssm] msnip status Stig Venaas
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Brian Haberman
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Hugo Santos
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Pekka Savola
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Toerless Eckert
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Beau Williamson
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Isidor Kouvelas
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Pekka Savola
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Isidor Kouvelas
- Re: [ssm] msnip status hoerdt Mickael
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Matthias Waehlisch
- Re: [ssm] msnip status Brian Haberman