Re: [Stackevo] an agenda for Wednesday's meeting

Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> Wed, 27 March 2019 10:51 UTC

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Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 11:50:58 +0100
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 Hey Brian,

Do we get lunch at this meeting? (I am always concerned about the next
meal.)

— aaron

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 15:04 Brian Trammell (IETF) <ietf@trammell.ch>
wrote:

> Greetings, all,
>
> From discussions with the IAB and in the hallway in Prague, I'd propose a
> few topics of discussion for our meeting on Wednesday (13:20 in Herkovcka,
> mezzanine level)
>
> (1) next/final steps on draft-thomson-use-it-or-lose-it: we'd like to get
> this draft ready to send up to the IAB for adoption soon.
>
> (2) next/(final) steps for the Stack Evolution Program: what else do we
> want to do after finishing use-it-or-lose-it?
>
> This is my now-traditional annual attempt to declare victory and close the
> program.
>
> (3) Following up on a question Aaron posed in the hallway:
>
> "To what extent is compute a part of the current Internet architecture,
> and to what extent are we poorly served by not treating it as such?". This
> is possibly a less intractable rephrasing of the "what is an endpoint?"
> question. The end-to-end model we use for the Internet really only applies
> up to a front-end load balancer for an increasing proportion of Internet
> traffic. To borrow a phrase from the past, everything on the other side of
> that LB is a catanet, albeit one that still kinda-mostly runs some
> transport/application stack atop IP.
>
> What implications does this development (which has basically already
> happened with the migration of everything on the server-side not already on
> a CDN into one or more public clouds) have for the evolution of the stack
> and the architecture?
>
> We could probably spend unbounded time on the question above; I'd like to
> know if anyone has other questions to address?
>
> Thanks, cheers,
>
> Brian
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