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Re: [Stackevo] draft-thomson-use-it-or-lose-it

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Tue, 07 August 2018 00:25 UTC

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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 10:24:48 +1000
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Subject: Re: [Stackevo] draft-thomson-use-it-or-lose-it
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On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 11:22 PM Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
> In short, my suggestion is to first decide on what applicability you
> want to have, and if broad, then let's explore some other cases.

Brian made a similar comment.  I would really like to hear more about
broader experience with this.  It seems like TLS is uniquely crappy
when it comes to these issues (investigating why would be another
valuable research subject...), but I can't believe for a moment that
the implementation ecosystem of other protocols is pristine and
blemish-free.

If your experience with the AAA protocols reveals anything, I'd be
very interested.  My understanding of RADIUS, having used it many
years ago, was that it was a great example of the active use thing I
advocate for.  That is, the mechanism you use to extend the protocol
is so fundamental to the protocol that you cannot avoid correctness in
extension handling.  Even having a stronger reaffirmation of that
would be helpful.

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