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Re: [Stackevo] an agenda for Wednesday's meeting

"Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch> Wed, 27 March 2019 10:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Stackevo] an agenda for Wednesday's meeting
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hi Aaron,

I am working under that assumption, yes. (Cindy, we do have food for stackevo, correct?)

Cheers,

Brian

> On 27 Mar 2019, at 11:50, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Hey Brian,
> 
> Do we get lunch at this meeting? (I am always concerned about the next meal.)
> 
> — aaron
> 
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 15:04 Brian Trammell (IETF) <ietf@trammell.ch> wrote:
> Greetings, all,
> 
> >From discussions with the IAB and in the hallway in Prague, I'd propose a few topics of discussion for our meeting on Wednesday (13:20 in Herkovcka, mezzanine level)
> 
> (1) next/final steps on draft-thomson-use-it-or-lose-it: we'd like to get this draft ready to send up to the IAB for adoption soon.
> 
> (2) next/(final) steps for the Stack Evolution Program: what else do we want to do after finishing use-it-or-lose-it? 
> 
> This is my now-traditional annual attempt to declare victory and close the program.
> 
> (3) Following up on a question Aaron posed in the hallway: 
> 
> "To what extent is compute a part of the current Internet architecture, and to what extent are we poorly served by not treating it as such?".. This is possibly a less intractable rephrasing of the "what is an endpoint?" question. The end-to-end model we use for the Internet really only applies up to a front-end load balancer for an increasing proportion of Internet traffic. To borrow a phrase from the past, everything on the other side of that LB is a catanet, albeit one that still kinda-mostly runs some transport/application stack atop IP.
> 
> What implications does this development (which has basically already happened with the migration of everything on the server-side not already on a CDN into one or more public clouds) have for the evolution of the stack and the architecture?
> 
> We could probably spend unbounded time on the question above; I'd like to know if anyone has other questions to address?
> 
> Thanks, cheers,
> 
> Brian
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