Re: [Status] SPRING Charter
"John G. Scudder" <jgs@juniper.net> Tue, 15 October 2013 15:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Status] SPRING Charter
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Thomas, On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> wrote: > When it comes to IPv6, however, the question of who is capable of > adding these "segment routes" becomes very significant. If the > originating end node can add SRs, the attack surface for exploiting > SRs becomes much more complicated Do you think if the document set said "a host SHALL NOT add an explicit route" it would make the attack surface less complicated? Why? FWIW I think the draft charter addresses this concern here: "There is an assumed trust model such that any node imposing an explicit route on a packet is assumed to be allowed to do so, however administrative and trust boundaries may strip explicit routes from a packet." Some hosts may be part of the trust domain. Others may not. --John
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