Re: [stir] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-15: (with COMMENT)

Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> Thu, 03 November 2016 14:33 UTC

Return-Path: <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98AC12966A; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 07:33:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.72
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.72 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=fastmail.fm header.b=QFWebhKs; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=T9dwGidm
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LxY9Q82gUqht; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 07:33:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF8C612950B; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 07:33:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FF620BEF; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 03 Nov 2016 10:33:44 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=iiVYw0YHTdLiSSJDgBDalTbUiv w=; b=QFWebhKsmPPRrI4zmIitelSCV4qGt4z0jqiXokjfidI36XBI32JhtZ2jNW cmL4jdB1y7hyB7qhTdo7wDDtv405zsnTQ31r9iTVuNQiAqs/1pMmRIQzdmw8DZbW GQLFm5NCBD/GKjrM7jroX4FrQs7LRXucAUPq+fRzs0gEUjdFs=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=ii VYw0YHTdLiSSJDgBDalTbUivw=; b=T9dwGidmGSlsMwJbEZ9mDbXiupdRvgYa/x /PiVi+iRjfg3GXSLtHNdpfh+5L13voHSuMUyhF2teJ+1Y2DrEVvThwbHhdffLvIW HY+8gC8jfEuY6ILFF3a6/+nlmaCzVq72ee2G83s5XdpFiNI3MxoKc5gasVjZcqjh LWD4Bialo=
X-ME-Sender: <xms:yEobWHtSxeg1YmsIuB1EJhapiimO-0HM73bulXjQudc_TGOFZiuiXg>
Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1A7A65A679; Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:33:44 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <1478183624.503613.776313985.5112168C@webmail.messagingengine.com>
From: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>
To: "Peterson, Jon" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain
X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-8f4ad78c
References: <147810760400.24029.4754110451794105928.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <D440BBE4.1C20A3%jon.peterson@neustar.biz>
In-Reply-To: <D440BBE4.1C20A3%jon.peterson@neustar.biz>
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 14:33:44 +0000
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/-KDZBQtp-Y8gNyzHw9Evq2gEo6M>
Cc: stir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis@ietf.org, stir-chairs@ietf.org, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
Subject: Re: [stir] Alexey Melnikov's No Objection on draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-15: (with COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited <stir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/stir>, <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/stir/>
List-Post: <mailto:stir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir>, <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2016 14:33:47 -0000

Hi Jon,

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016, at 02:14 PM, Peterson, Jon wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >COMMENT:
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >This is a well written document (despite giving too many deployment
> >choices in some areas). I have a short list of small issues/nits:
> >
> >In Section 4: ABNF for the signed-identity-digest allows empty string? Is
> >this intentional? If not, maybe use "1*" in front?
> 
> Um, right. Yeah we'll fix that.

Good.

> >In Section 5.1: are you missing an empty line between the header and the
> >SDP payload?
> 
> We can insert one.

Great, thanks.

> >In Section 6.2.2: is it customary in SIP to use the human readable
> >portion of error responses?
> 
> We're discussing that in the Ben thread, but

You haven't finished the sentence...

> >In Section 7.4: HTTP URIs need a reference.
> 
> Well... we meant here to use the URLs in RFC2585 (specifically in section
> 3, the "HTTP Conventions"), that RFC is ref'd at the end of the sentence.
> Is that adequate?

I suggest including both, as RFC 2585 is not even referencing RFC 2616.

> >In Section 8.4: URI-ID from RFC 6125 can be used for the subdomain case
> >as well?
> 
> 
> Hadn't considered it. I'm not aware how much uptake that has with SIP
> services, but we could look into it a bit.

This is similar to adding telephone numbers to certificates: CAs will
have to be updated to handle them. But yes, I am not going to push for
this to be adopted, even though I personally think it is a good idea.