Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Wed, 21 April 2021 01:58 UTC

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From: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2021 21:58:34 -0400
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Subject: Re: [stir] Proposal for update of erratum #6519
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Jon,

I hope someone from the OpenSIPit can speak to that in more details, but
according to their status page (
https://opensipit.org/opensipit01-day-2-update/), they have encountered
several Date header issues as well:

    - lots of issues/quirks around the Date header field (now mandatory):
        * bad formatting (missing comma, GMT (good) vs. UTC (bad))
        * localization issues (Mi (bad) vs. Wed (good))
        * some teams forgot to build it at all
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Roman Shpount


On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 2:25 PM Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 2:19 PM Peterson, Jon <jon.peterson@team.neustar>
> wrote:
>
>> This is the first time I can recall that I’ve heard the suggestion that
>> Date headers should not be added by AS’s, but on first glance I’m not sure
>> I consider that a crucial thing to fix, anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>
> The Date header was an interop issue that I have encountered when dealing
> with multiple carriers. This is due to their SBC vendor not inserting the
> Date header and refusing to insert it since, according to them, it is
> redundant and known to cause interop issues.
> _____________
> Roman Shpount
>