Re: [stir] SIPCoin - a new cryptocurrency for stopping robocalls

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Thu, 08 March 2018 15:44 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
CC: Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@jdrosen.net>, "stir@ietf.org" <stir@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [stir] SIPCoin - a new cryptocurrency for stopping robocalls
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Subject: Re: [stir] SIPCoin - a new cryptocurrency for stopping robocalls
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My gut reaction: please let’s not have the IETF doing crypto-currency.  Yes, this is based on absolutely no technical data whatsoever.