[stir] reality check
Tony Rutkowski <tony@yaanatech.com> Thu, 16 March 2017 13:03 UTC
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Subject: [stir] reality check
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Given the proclivity to use Bond themes, it might be useful to take stock of what seems like Never Say Die and the STIR/ SHAKEN gambit. It is rather clear that given what is occurring in different jurisdictions around the world, STIR/SHAKEN has a chance of somewhere close to zero to be implemented on even a limited scale. Talking about "governance" seems delusional. The only thing the FCC is doing is proposing allowing regulated carriers to block traffic at their customer's request. That is the best possible outcome after what will be a long comment and reply proceeding period, if not additional litigation on multiple causes of action. Given the overwhelming negative responses about STIR/SHAKEN in the CRTC proceeding comment period ending yesterday - especially by Canadian industry, it seems highly unlikely they are going to be implementing anything along the lines of STIR/SHAKEN. https://services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/ListeInterventionList/Default-Defaut.aspx? And then there is the rest of the world whose views seem to range between outright rejection and pursuit of probabilistic rather than ancient deterministic (e.g., STIR/SHAKEN) solutions. That was the reaction at the ETSI CYBER#9 meeting a few weeks ago. It is also reflected in the latest draft on the subject into the upcoming ITU-T SG17 meeting. Indeed, there are multiple other inputs - especially by Alibaba - that point to a shift to probabilistic options. Indeed, that is where the innovations are occurring - and the FCC NPRM/NOI fortuitously allows for them. Canada being a progressive nation seems likely to encourage them as well. The emerging enhanced/extensible versions of CNAM that facilitate probabilistic solutions are where the focus seems likely. (I'm still waiting for the ATIS' version to be make publicly available. It seems like don't want anyone so see it.) --tony ps. STIR/SHAKEN looks rather like the old CCITT clinging onto the ancient past. :-)
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- Re: [stir] certificates: short-lived or status Alex Bobotek
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- Re: [stir] certificates: short-lived or status Richard Shockey
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