Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN

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Wow Tony … that’s some Kool-Aid you are sipping or smoking … share the Joy.  





From: sipcore <> on behalf of Tony Rutkowski <>
Organization: Yaana Ltd
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Date: Friday, February 3, 2017 at 3:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN


It may be well understood at some level,
albeit not widely used.  Scaling its use globally
has a chance of between zero and none. 
Mr. Google can point you to all the other 
solutions proffered out there by other bodies
and national administrations.

So prior to 7 Nov 2016, it had some marginal chance
of having US uptake with a FCC forcing function.  
Or at least it sounded good for FCC PR purposes.
Today, in the brave new world in Washington,
it seems just a matter of time it gets formally
flushed along with NetNeutrality, Title II jurisdiction,
etc.  It just doesn't fit the new political paradigm.

Blockchain solutions for dealing with authentication 
requirements such as call spoofing are fast ascending 
and in the long term far more attractive.  So since
there is now more time to play with, why not shift
to an alternative mechanism that's more contemporary
and with better technical, operational, and political
attributes.   As Bobby Dylan reminded us, you don't
need a weatherman here.



On 2017-02-03 2:39 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:

Given how many years STIR/Shaken have taken -- and that's for well-understood technology with lots of field experience -- you are suggesting the process start over? 

What are the incremental benefits that will accrue from waiting another 5-8 years to deploy this alternative mechanism? 


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