Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN
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Subject: Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN
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Wow Tony … that’s some Kool-Aid you are sipping or smoking … share the Joy. From: sipcore <sipcore-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Tony Rutkowski <tony@yaanatech.co.uk> Organization: Yaana Ltd Reply-To: <tony@yaanatech.co.uk> Date: Friday, February 3, 2017 at 3:00 PM To: <dcrocker@bbiw.net>, "stir@ietf.org" <stir@ietf.org>, <sipcore@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [sipcore] [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN It may be well understood at some level, albeit not widely used. Scaling its use globally has a chance of between zero and none. Mr. Google can point you to all the other solutions proffered out there by other bodies and national administrations. So prior to 7 Nov 2016, it had some marginal chance of having US uptake with a FCC forcing function. Or at least it sounded good for FCC PR purposes. Today, in the brave new world in Washington, it seems just a matter of time it gets formally flushed along with NetNeutrality, Title II jurisdiction, etc. It just doesn't fit the new political paradigm. Blockchain solutions for dealing with authentication requirements such as call spoofing are fast ascending and in the long term far more attractive. So since there is now more time to play with, why not shift to an alternative mechanism that's more contemporary and with better technical, operational, and political attributes. As Bobby Dylan reminded us, you don't need a weatherman here. tony On 2017-02-03 2:39 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: Given how many years STIR/Shaken have taken -- and that's for well-understood technology with lots of field experience -- you are suggesting the process start over? What are the incremental benefits that will accrue from waiting another 5-8 years to deploy this alternative mechanism? d/ _______________________________________________ sipcore mailing list sipcore@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore
- [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice… Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has i… Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has i… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has i… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has i… Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has i… Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] [sipcore] The Canadian Regulator has i… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a No… Alex Bobotek
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