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From: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2025 at 1:11 PM
To: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
Cc: Brett Nemeroff <Brett.Nemeroff@numeracle.com>, IETF STIR Mail List <stir@ietf.org>
Subject: [stir] Re: [art] Re: Re: Re: For those of you who follow this kind of stuff.

 

 

 

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:56 PM Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> wrote:

From: Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com>

 

Finally, if we intend to mandate the transmission of personally identifiable data with every call, we need to update SIP with a scalable and secure transport protocol. Most current carrier SIP implementations still use UDP. 

 

RS> Proof positive that you can’t fix stupid.

 

What would you use as an alternative?

 

RS> well TCP as a start. I just do not see the appetite for some new alternative. The Real Time Voice business is economically challenging at best and the people that could do this are either retired or 6 feet under. As a side bar I do get calls about RFC 6116 from time to time on the TN to URI issue.  OK fine. I get it, but to actually deploy it would probably require some form of DoH as the actual query protocol.  Its possible. I don’t necessarily advocate it but adding DoH to RFC 6116 could easily be handled by other national SDO as required by the regulators.

 

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