Re: [stir] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stir-rph-emergency-services-00.txt

Chris Wendt <chris-ietf@chriswendt.net> Mon, 13 January 2020 00:26 UTC

Return-Path: <chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>
X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930A3120045 for <stir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:26:07 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.897
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=chriswendt-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MPj7q8_hC3zN for <stir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:26:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-qk1-x72f.google.com (mail-qk1-x72f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1FFE120013 for <stir@ietf.org>; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:26:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-qk1-x72f.google.com with SMTP id x129so7073182qke.8 for <stir@ietf.org>; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:26:05 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chriswendt-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=kuSHizC4H6aNIjplX2H0GGfec225apZHaVoU104sprU=; b=UQAjHhAggqI8U2Fp1xeVV3u0GGAMIiKJlZRenJKWZ2NFMBBvCSlTUml3euMeJz/tjg V6m141ERcBY9oOWesZqh2+MlG7066ngq9bAKIsb+wtuXS5KxVfnLI4UJOfD4CKHXoq/n HR+vZ3UbJGLhHWfndrN1ojzg6tA2uhYLZWpnpzIicveJXTfyyIPXGKITCex3USEOFhdS SbT57S/VH6GId0K44WGabs+7wXXp64RGnyU2iz+dlWNMLmrFXyW4R457WAonMBCn70Mv uOoXBRmfLyu0rDGSc74YWkP9YhMtfQM4fUUKaGrEYgqU4sIp0+TIpibKBdRfh1UYg6dC QFRQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=kuSHizC4H6aNIjplX2H0GGfec225apZHaVoU104sprU=; b=nOD+IizvpzBMWcKMC2IT24Hz7njGpuZwPVdIMHJrqGCTRjzCqfzNrRAevPoa+LDSAv SPSstryfx/VA4ogU54CGwT2EyfrxnY7GwUHByI5amirU5wQ8+ObZb8aKMT1qVL4cDxXZ VzR+dR3LU8SadBWA6GlVM+AH/U9CTVDmgap5Kjsp8QOYNIW/s1zNUCKbU0FNxOAlL3uH C1sb4j86iIEEb7wbNdYi/A+Ie5yeFC9TEwka9ktvHxEF6QDdk4i/VSJOAAKtcpxPE2CX QwgrAKX81R/3fNCJo7/DE/nojzbk/U9PA2aS/7qF283ow0jKuzMRvUTEEPELdU4GFZzE uXDQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXkNV0JDaSgPAL3Xb4sXgFhn7iU5k/R3MTygWzErvusqeZtEJF2 KBYEzaDHqjGo2L8WdqSxmBBHUQ==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx0kAhkPVJi7wcyOLGxCnLdiMlMwBWz2PzLmsfr2ms3HCextUaSeEGC47jVT7cfWioZ9KC2Hg==
X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:136e:: with SMTP id d14mr13614073qkl.342.1578875164665; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:26:04 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [10.0.0.111] (c-69-139-1-231.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [69.139.1.231]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w1sm4950267qtk.31.2020.01.12.16.26.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:26:04 -0800 (PST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.40.2.2.4\))
From: Chris Wendt <chris-ietf@chriswendt.net>
In-Reply-To: <3dd56be2-c6a0-6d9b-28b0-147d0a850d52@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 19:26:03 -0500
Cc: stir@ietf.org
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <7C5A6A7A-4EF2-40EF-8302-3FBD47D69B09@chriswendt.net>
References: <157867442704.27573.9355675211465090689@ietfa.amsl.com> <3dd56be2-c6a0-6d9b-28b0-147d0a850d52@alum.mit.edu>
To: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.40.2.2.4)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/cM5ohyq9phh20YmTh6FcaSAFwuU>
Subject: Re: [stir] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stir-rph-emergency-services-00.txt
X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited <stir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/stir>, <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/stir/>
List-Post: <mailto:stir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir>, <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:26:07 -0000

Hi Paul,

I think we do intend to make that clearer and provide explicit rules.  We had a discussion at the meeting about what the URN should be, etc. So hoping we can make progress on that for next version.

-Chris

> On Jan 12, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
> I'm having a little difficulty understanding the details of what constitutes a valid assertion. In section 3 I see:
> 
>     {
>       "orig":{"tn":"CgPN"},
>       "dest":{["tn":"911 or URN-SOS"]},
>       "iat":1443208345,
>       "rph":{"ESorig":["esnet,x"]}
>     }
> 
> This isn't ABNF so I don't know the rules for interpreting it. Some of the stuff enclosed in quotes is obviously intended to be literal. But other parts, also included in quotes, seem to placeholders.
> 
> For instance "911 or URN-SOS" - I presume the assertion isn't actually supposed to literally include this. Rather, I guess it should be either "911" or "urn:service:sos".  Similarly I *guess* "CgPN" is not intended to be literal.
> 
> Do I get that right?
> 
> If so, I think there needs to be some additional work to specify this clearly. You could specify the assertion format in ABNF, but maybe there is a better way.
> 
> 	Thanks,
> 	Paul
> 
> On 1/10/20 11:40 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Secure Telephone Identity Revisited WG of the IETF.
>>         Title           : Assertion Values for a Resource Priority Header Claim in Support of Emergency Services Networks
>>         Authors         : Martin Dolly
>>                           Chris Wendt
>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-stir-rph-emergency-services-00.txt
>> 	Pages           : 6
>> 	Date            : 2020-01-10
>> Abstract:
>>    This document adds new assertion values for a Resource Priority
>>    Header ("rph") claim defined in RFC 8443, in support of Emergency
>>    Services Networks for emergency call origination and callback.
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stir-rph-emergency-services/
>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stir-rph-emergency-services-00
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-stir-rph-emergency-services-00
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>> _______________________________________________
>> stir mailing list
>> stir@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir
> 
> _______________________________________________
> stir mailing list
> stir@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir