Re: [stir] Comments on draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-13.txt

Alan Ford <alan.ford@gmail.com> Thu, 13 October 2016 07:55 UTC

Return-Path: <alan.ford@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: stir@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7B31296D7 for <stir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:55:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.699
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bk3Nj6yvvA-K for <stir@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-qt0-x22e.google.com (mail-qt0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 763D012947E for <stir@ietf.org>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-qt0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id m5so33137275qtb.3 for <stir@ietf.org>; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:55:00 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=etOFykTQJ+CDyyluRRs8rb2QMRIV5QJGTaeNKqlEs+U=; b=hYgMQaWwYLwxu7GW4jgPp73hey2eojiCD+hTjKwkr6WPGoRZzUqbS24wY/6tnQwqbv cmHxv0bkiiuwsSj6VgR1HX2cet/RV/MLdLGSSvhzCGm1d/4Lg+JC8aYfb3c/wXx49Fq3 Bzc9yaEgtaXFeAG8qBuwEglL7TO+dqFARIAftP2bcvkWvqkc99wXS/cLfbX3IQ5T9s6C EQNsOiAhB4+lPwB3ITwy8PUR66HamYu5GkBbrBp/AZu/JkO1gxphAJ/e21+6fJO9EhvP putytpNXoJLDkz0aDbKJ62fdL7OyKe/tLmVKMQNFKKnRMkk+WjXeA+UiWrm93dg64/xw Nhgg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :references:to:in-reply-to; bh=etOFykTQJ+CDyyluRRs8rb2QMRIV5QJGTaeNKqlEs+U=; b=CIsXgwLDmZJ6YO4LSsxnpP4M0ER3CjeAepINdRlh/06CEd4zmz3FDIuEinGF/E9TdZ WoDHvSoJZfHDOyXXoAbBoxcRJxVyBmBnmwh82TsL/ovIW9iliJYyPT9Hl40pIklf5zo0 O78Ryq+JdGrzTVoU6N5YlEKeUijH2WKXvDwIrIkewNjLrMzz3dG9FPNOM0rNxBJLb5x5 7cYETgfOoDRTEAOA8EjLSzZFOx3UXbWDYPHH/1HA/R/yUTxYbcMugElTQ087h6fEAgNz ZM2jrDH0zA/OeeZONtG4IcTP9qon0Rjmq+V/yTLJGIZNNW+JscJWggdl+oWKnLQaZEpQ 7QRA==
X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9Rnx/yI7suSURSzphWzstEu4KEgSCc0/rzJ6OsLl3uj5efsJgXUMTvUFEhciixSsHg==
X-Received: by 10.28.195.196 with SMTP id t187mr1128306wmf.29.1476345299496; Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from alans-mbp.lan ([37.152.254.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p9sm20404789wjs.11.2016.10.13.00.54.58 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:54:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alan Ford <alan.ford@gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6CAF83CE-A549-4ACA-BF30-F3F38CB1001B"
Message-Id: <A35F5C84-C286-4777-8B9F-F9FC1C38F2F8@gmail.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\))
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 08:56:30 +0100
References: <5C775124-3C87-4725-9545-404E08770022@shockey.us>
To: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>, stir@ietf.org
In-Reply-To: <5C775124-3C87-4725-9545-404E08770022@shockey.us>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/stir/e8fK5iWJ9y5jjijyInkLj3bUzgg>
Subject: Re: [stir] Comments on draft-ietf-stir-rfc4474bis-13.txt
X-BeenThere: stir@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Secure Telephone Identity Revisited <stir.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/stir>, <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/stir/>
List-Post: <mailto:stir@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir>, <mailto:stir-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 07:55:02 -0000

Hi Richard,

> On 7 Oct 2016, at 00:58, Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> wrote:
> 
> RS> In the United States carrier profile of STIR aka SHAKEN, you must use the full form of PASSporT.    There will be more on this after October 26.  

Given this, and given my previously expressed thoughts that the scenarios in which compact would be useful in the SIP world are limited, is there any need for compact form at all?

Regards,
Alan