[stir] Comments on draft-stir-callback

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Wed, 14 March 2018 07:53 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: [stir] Comments on draft-stir-callback
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Hi,

On a high-level, for a “temporary solution”, I think this would take quite a bit of effort to deploy. Shouldn’t the focus be on getting the "certificate systems" up and running?

Also, how does this relate to activities like SHAKEN?


Anyway, assuming this would be needed, I have some comments on the protocol parts.

First, even though I do consider myself more pragmatic than purist, I think usage of INVITE, and the usage of error response codes to return the verification result, is a really ugly hack.

Second, there are also some operational issues with using INVITE:

  1.  Good old forking: The callback/verifying INVITE might get forked, and the terminating agent may receive a non-471/472 response.
  2.  SDP: The draft requires SDP in the INVITE, but at the same time says that it’s not used for anything. If so, why is it mandated? Because offerless INVITEs might get rejected? SDP in INVITE might trigger media resources etc to be reserved.
  3.  Section 7.3 talks about attacks by the agent receiving the callback/verifying INVITE, but it does not cover the case where the agent would send a 200 OK response – which would establish a session and could trigger charging. Alternatively, the attacker could remove the option-tag and forward the request somewhere. All this without the originally called party knowing anything. The terminating agent can of course terminate such “call" as soon as it gets the 200 OK, but it may already have triggered some charging etc.

Third, did the authors consider other mechanisms? For example, is there a reason e.g., SUB/NOT couldn’t be used for this? It would have none of the INVITE issues above (yes, a SUB can also get forked, but the client will receive NOT from each remote peer).

Finally, it seems like the callback request (whatever SIP method is used) contains the called party in the From header field. Is there a technical reason why that is needed, or is it just for convenience?

Thanks!

Regards,

Christer