Re: [stir] current draft charter

Either of these would work fine for me.

I don't want to make it sound more complex than necessary but would just note that using the term "assignee" is sometimes also tricky. For example, a number range assignee may remain the same even though numbers have been ported out of that range. (Incidentally, in a number of national numbering plan, it's always the assignee's responsibility to provide an annual report on the use of that range (and on all of its assigned ranges), which may therefore oddly enough include numbers that have been ported out)

Using your terms, in these cases, the holder has a number in a range which is and remains assigned to a party it (the holder) has no relationship with.

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From: Richard Barnes [mailto:rlb@ipv.sx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:17 PM
To: Dave Crocker
Cc: Richard Shockey; FOUQUART Philippe OLNC/OLN; stir@ietf.org; Peterson, Jon; Henning Schulzrinne
Subject: Re: [stir] current draft charter

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net<mailto:dhc@dcrocker.net>> wrote:
On 6/18/2013 8:06 AM, Richard Shockey wrote:
Although people sometimes like using ownership as a shortcut, it's more of a
right of use really. (I'm sure some here will remember discussions on the
notion of carrier of record with eye-watering nostalgia)

As someone who's been using the term ownership here, I'll note that I indeed meant it as an expedient and am happy to use whatever term is already common or that the group prefers.  The 'right to use' is the important issue here, not the legality of ownership.

Absent there being an established term, how about assignment and assignee, in place of ownership and owner?

That would be consistent with usage in the Internet number / RPKI space.  The verb "to hold" is also used, e.g., the holder of number resources.

--Richard

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