Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN

Alex Bobotek <alex@bobotek.net> Sat, 04 February 2017 03:03 UTC

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From: Alex Bobotek <alex@bobotek.net>
To: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@bbiw.net>, "tony@yaanatech.co.uk" <tony@yaanatech.co.uk>, "stir@ietf.org" <stir@ietf.org>, "sipcore@ietf.org" <sipcore@ietf.org>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 18:38:09 -0800
Thread-Topic: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN
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Subject: Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN
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To the extent that the overhead of authorizing legitimate delegation of authority might impede wider use of STIR/SHAKEN, blockchain-based  technology _might_ be utilized as an alternative authority delegation mechanism in a way that reduces overhead.  

I'm not certain if that's what Tony is referring to, and the "_might_" is not me taking any position at this time wrt the relative pros and cons of blockchain vs STIR's delegation technologies.  

Tony, I'm apparently not the only one who doesn't understand how you believe blockchain might help, but am always ready to listen to an explanation.  

On the original point of CRTC's ask for information that got this thread going, a number of CRTC personnel will be attending and/or speaking on panels at M3AAWG VTASIG on the 23rd in San Francisco.  I'm not sure what CRTC's rules are on informal discussion of issues that are part of their formal regulatory process, but at the very least I expect them to present it and have open ears.  

Regards,

Alex 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: stir [mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Crocker
> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 3:59 PM
> To: tony@yaanatech.co.uk; stir@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [stir] The Canadian Regulator has issued a Notice of Consultation
> on robocalls spoofing STIR/SHAKEN
> 
> On 2/3/2017 12:00 PM, Tony Rutkowski wrote:
> > Mr. Google can point you to all the other solutions proffered out
> > there by other bodies and national administrations.
> 
> Citations to standardized (ie, multilaterally-supported) detailed specifications
> of an integrated service, please.  You are making the claim, so you can do the
> google and proffer the satisfying results.
> 
> 
> > Blockchain solutions for dealing with authentication requirements such
> > as call spoofing are fast ascending and in the long term far more
> > attractive.
> 
> If there is a problem with the uptake of STIR/Shaken, what will make the
> uptake of a blockchain-based service -- whatever that might be -- any
> better?
> 
> d/
> --
> 
>    Dave Crocker
>    Brandenburg InternetWorking
>    bbiw.net
> 
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