Re: [storm] [tsv-area] Application protocol for distributed storage

Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Fri, 15 January 2010 08:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [storm] [tsv-area] Application protocol for distributed storage
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Hi, Wesley,

On 2010-1-15, at 6:07, Wesley Leggette wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I sent this out to the apps discuss list, but I thought somebody here might
> also be able to help me.
> 
> My company is interested in submitting an I-D for our network distributed
> storage protocol. At this point, we're thinking of dividing our efforts into
> multiple parts:
> 
> * An on-the-wire application protocol from client to storage servers.
> * A security protocol.
> * A data processing method and storage format for client data stored on
> storage servers.
> 
> I'm not entirely clear which working group(s) I should attempt to work with.
> Any pointers would be helpful.
> 
> Our application and products as a whole get into the "cloud storage" area,
> but we would like to focus on a smaller subset (just the network protocol)
> to begin with. However, if there are any working groups within IETF that
> focus on remote or distributed storage that would be interesting to know as
> well.

you probably want to take a look at the work of the NFSv4 working group (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/nfsv4/charters), since NFS is the IETF's current major protocol in this space.

The STORM working group (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/storm/charters) is currently chartered to do maintenance on the lower part of the IETF storage stack, namely, the iSCSI and RDMA protocols originally done in the now-concluded IPS and RDDP working groups.

(I've CC'ed both NFSv4 and STORM on this reply.)

Lars

> Thanks,
> 
> Wesley Leggette
> Cleversafe, Inc.