Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09.txt
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Wed, 14 September 2016 15:48 UTC
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A few additional notes... On 9/12/16 8:36 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. Comments inline. > > On 9/12/16 8:26 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: >> Hi, >> >> A few comments inline. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Ben. >> >> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:42, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé wrote: >> >> Review time! >> Page 10: " As described in Section 6 >> , the XMPP-to-SIP gateway also generates a >> presence notification addressed to the XMPP user: >> “ >> Should we say “if the NOTIFY contains a body” or is it obvious >> enough? It’s possible the SIP user is offline, but the XMPP is user >> is already authorised, so the NOTIFY will contain >> Subscription-State: active, but no body. >> >> It's probably worth adding an example of how the the gateway might >> interpret an empty body. I assume that if this is the first NOTIFY in >> the dialog (notification session), the gateway would interpret that as >> unknown or possibly "closed". If previous NOTIFYs have in the same >> notification session, it should probably mean "no change". > > Good idea, will do. As described in Section 6, if this first NOTIFY in the notification session contains a body then the XMPP-to-SIP gateway also generates a presence notification addressed to the XMPP user (if the NOTIFY does not contain a body then the gateway would interpret it as unknown or "closed"): >> Page 11: "As can be seen, because SIMPLE does not >> have a construct that enables a contact to cancel her presence >> authorization,” >> There is: remove the user from the corresponding XCAP rule. Next >> time presence is requested, it will be denied. (the SUBSCRIBE dialog >> still needs to be terminated though). >> >> The text is about the subscriber, not the presentity. So if Juliet >> subscribes to Romeo's presence, Romeo can change the authorization rule >> (via xcap or otherwise). But /Juliet/ cannot. >> >> I suppose "her authorization" can be a bit ambiguous. (If Romeo >> authorizes Juliet, whose authorization is it?) > > I was tempted to add "outbound" or "inbound" in all cases to make this > crystal clear... Changed to "cancel her outbound presence authorization" <snip/> >> Page 27: " As described in [RFC3856 >> ], this cancels any notification dialog but >> causes a NOTIFY to be sent to the subscriber, just as a presence >> probe does (the transformation rules for presence notifications have >> been previously described in >> Section 6.2 of this document).” >> A probe would be implemented as a new SUBSCRIBE dialog with expires >> 0, which does’t cancel all other dialogs. So while the mechanism is >> the same, using a *new* SUBSCRIBE request with Expires: 0 would just >> be a probe, not a cancellation. > > I will look into this. What you say sounds plausible but I'd like to > double-check it against my reading of RFC 3856. Yes, that looks right. I would change things as follows (note the new Call-ID, too): A SIP-to-XMPP gateway would transform the presence probe into its SIP equivalent, which is a SUBSCRIBE request with an Expires header value of zero in a new dialog: Example 23: SIP Transformation of XMPP Presence Probe | SUBSCRIBE sip:romeo@example.net SIP/2.0 | Via: SIP/2.0/TCP x2s.example.com;branch=z9hG4bKna998sk | From: <sip:juliet@example.com>;tag=j89d | Call-ID: 2398B737-566F-4CBB-A21A-1F8EEF7AF423 | Event: presence | Max-Forwards: 70 | CSeq: 1 SUBSCRIBE | Contact: <sip:juliet@example.com>;gr=yn0cl4bnw0yr3vym | Accept: application/pidf+xml | Expires: 0 | Content-Length: 0 As described in [RFC3856], this causes a NOTIFY to be sent to the subscriber, just as a presence probe does (the transformation rules for presence notifications have been previously described in Section 6.2 of this document). >> General note: the examples with "<show >> xmlns='jabber:client'>away</show>” lack the XML namespace >> declaration for “jabber”. > > Another good catch. Actually, 'jabber' is not a prefix here and the namespace name is indeed "jabber:client" - this was defined in the very early days of XML namespaces and we Jabberites didn't fully understand what a namespace name was supposed to look like. :( If that all looks good, I will publish a revised I-D soon. Peter
- [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09.txt internet-drafts
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé