Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-05
"Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> Mon, 07 December 2015 00:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-05
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I read this as removing the 2119 keywords for descriptions 6665 stuff, correct? If so, that's a fine change, but it doesn't seem to address the context of refreshing the subscription on behalf of an XMPP subscriber. Maybe the wrong comment was quoted? Thanks! Ben. On 4 Dec 2015, at 21:24, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 9/23/15 8:52 PM, Peter Saint-Andre - &yet wrote: > >>> "... whenever an XMPP-to-SIP gateway seeks to refresh an XMPP >>> user’s >>> long-lived subscription to a SIP user’s presence, it MUST first >>> send an >>> XMPP <presence/> stanza of type "probe" ..." >>> >>> I would have liked to see that discussed in the relevant procedures >>> section(s). >> >> OK, I'll see if we can include it earlier in the document. > > How is this? > > OLD > > For as long as a SIP user is online and interested in receiving > presence notifications from the XMPP contact, the user's SIP User > Agent is responsible for periodically refreshing the subscription by > sending an updated SUBSCRIBE request with an appropriate value for > the Expires header. In response, the presence-aware SIP-to-XMPP > gateway MUST send a SIP NOTIFY to the user agent (per [RFC6665]); if > the SIP-to-XMPP gateway has meaningful information about the > availability state of the XMPP user (e.g., obtained from the core > presence session in the XMPP server) then the NOTIFY MUST communicate > that information (e.g., by including a PIDF body [RFC3863] with the > relevant data), whereas if the SIP-to-XMPP gateway does not have > meaningful information about the availability state of the XMPP user > then the NOTIFY MUST be empty as allowed by [RFC6665]. > > NEW > > For as long as a SIP user is online and interested in receiving > presence notifications from the XMPP contact, the user's SIP User > Agent is responsible for periodically refreshing the subscription by > sending an updated SUBSCRIBE request with an appropriate value for > the Expires header. In response, the presence-aware SIP-to-XMPP > gateway sends a SIP NOTIFY to the user agent (per [RFC6665]); if the > SIP-to-XMPP gateway has meaningful information about the availability > state of the XMPP user (e.g., obtained from the core presence session > in the XMPP server or learned by sending a presence probe as > described under Section 7) then the NOTIFY communicates that > information (e.g., by including a PIDF body [RFC3863] with the > relevant data), whereas if the SIP-to-XMPP gateway does not have > meaningful information about the availability state of the XMPP user > then the NOTIFY MUST be empty as allowed by [RFC6665]. > > Do you think we need more detail? > > Peter
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-05 Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-stox-7248b… Peter Saint-Andre