Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13.txt

"Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net> Thu, 13 October 2016 11:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13.txt
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> On 13 Oct 2016, at 11:12, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé <saul@ag-projects.com>; wrote:
> 
> LGTM!
> 
>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 04:33, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>; wrote:
>> 
>> Added an appendix describing the changes from RFC 7248, pasted below for convenience.
>> 
>> ###
>> 
>> Appendix A.  Changes from RFC 7248
>> 
>>  RFC 7248 had already been published when the STOX WG discovered that
>>  a related document (since published as [RFC7702]) contained problems
>>  that also applied to RFC 7248.  Specifically, the diagrams and
>>  protocol flows in RFC 7248 contained errors that reflected an
>>  incorrect architecture with gateways on both sides of the protocol
>>  exchange; in theory and in practice, presence traffic from an XMPP
>>  system would be translated by an XMPP-to-SIMPLE gateway on the XMPP
>>  side and received by a normal SIP/SIMPLE system directly (without a
>>  receiving gateway on the SIP/SIMPLE side), and traffic from a SIP
>>  system would be translated by a SIMPLE-to-XMPP gateway on the SIP
>>  side and received by a normal XMPP system (without a receiving
>>  gateway on the XMPP side).
>> 
>>  Therefore, this document makes the following substantive changes from
>>  RFC 7248:
>> 
>>  o  Corrects the architectural assumptions, diagrams, and protocol
>>     flows to reflect a single-gateway model in each direction.
>> 
>>  o  Adjusts terminology to replace the term "SIP Server" with the term
>>     "SIP Proxy" or "SIP resence Server" as appropriate, to use the
I would like to contribute a “p” in front of “resence”

/O
>>     term "notification dialog" for a SIP subscription and the term
>>     "presence authorization" for an XMPP subscription instead of the
>>     generic term "subscription" in both contexts, etc.
>> 
>>  o  Clarifies that SIP notification dialogs are used to handle
>>     presence authorizations in SIP (e.g., there is no dedicated way to
>>     signal outbound cancellation of an authorization as there is in
>>     XMPP).
>> 
>>  o  Clarifies the use of the 'presence.winfo' event package, of the
>>     Subscription-State headers (specifically with values of "pending",
>>     "active", "closed", or "terminated"), of NOTIFY messages with no
>>     body, etc.
>> 
>>  o  Clarifies the durations of notification dialogs and presence
>>     authorizations, and how they are extended in SIP and handled in
>>     XMPP.
>> 
>>  o  Removes the mapping of the XMPP 'id' attribute to the SIP "CSeq"
>>     header.
>> 
>>  o  Describes the handling of multiple connected resources in XMPP.
>> 
>>  o  Provides information about mitigations for leaks of presence
>>     information.
>> 
>> ###
>> 
>> On 10/9/16 8:28 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>> 
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>> This draft is a work item of the SIP-TO-XMPP of the IETF.
>>> 
>>>       Title           : Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence
>>>       Author          : Peter Saint-Andre
>>> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13.txt
>>> 	Pages           : 32
>>> 	Date            : 2016-10-09
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>>  This document defines a bidirectional protocol mapping for the
>>>  exchange of presence information between the Session Initiation
>>>  Protocol (SIP) and the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol
>>>  (XMPP).  This document obsoletes RFC 7248.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis/
>>> 
>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13
>>> 
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-13
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>> 
>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>> 
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